question about de-brothering

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by Confuzzled23

i pledged a fraternity last spring '06 and ended up moving out east that summer. Where i live now there are no chapters near me, the closest is 3 hours away. I am trying this semester to start my own chapter in my new school but I just do not have the time with school and work. I have no real idea if i ever am going to be moving back to my original hometown to be with my frat again and so I am a little confused right now. Should i de-brother and join a new fraternity?

I do feel like an ass for just "ditching" my brothers like this, but I have tried creating my own chapter but i just don't have the time for it. I have no idea what to do or if i can even pledge a new fraternity? I know some fraternities don't accept men who have de-brothered from another fraternity.. so Im just lost at all ends here any help would be appreciated.

The new fraternity i was thinking about joining is the Latino fraternity Lambda Sigma Upsilon, any1 know if they accept people who have de-brothered from other fraternities? Also what does the de-brother process involve? Do i have to go back home to de-brother at my school?

While it may seem an unimportant question, but you said you Pledged. Were you Initiated? Now, if you were a member of a NIC GLO there are very few who will deactivate you but there are some who will release you. If you were just a "Pledge" only, then you can move onward.

So lets take it you were Initiated and a full member!

You are now at your new School and want to start a Chapter.

1. Contact your HQ.
2. Are there other Chapters close by?
3. How big is your GLO in the area of the country?
4. What is the Greek capacity compared to school population?
5. Are they expandable? (School)
6. Is your GLO wanting to expand!

Now, if all questions are answered then go ahead and sit out and go
Promote and see what happens! One LXA did it at Wyoming and there is a Chapter there now!

[fantASTic]

If I were you, I'd try to get your nationals or your old chapter to help you out starting a new one first. Disaffiliating is a sad, sad thing for all involved. I think if you had proper support from the school and your chapter you could do fine. We recently had Phi Sigma Sigma start a new chapter at our school [just now, actually] and they have sixty girls, give or take about five. They were allowed to have formal recruitment, so they took quite a few girls there.

So, to sum up:

Meet with your Greek Life people
Talk to nationals, or your old chapter if you were more local
Don't give up on your brothers.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

You are now at your new School and want to start a Chapter.

1. Contact your HQ.
2. Are there other Chapters close by?

He already answered that in the second sentence of his post:

Originally Posted by Confuzzled23

Where i live now there are no chapters near me, the closest is 3 hours away.

Confuzzled, I think your best bet is to talk with the HQ of the fraternity you joined last spring -- both about the possibility of assistance in starting a chapter and, if that's not going to happen, about your other options.

If a new chapter of your org isn't going to happen, you could talk with Lambda Sigma Upsilon about whether they have a "social affiliate" sort of things -- some orgs/chapters allow "orphaned Greeks" to participate with them in social activities (but not ritual or business) under certain circumstances.

[Confuzzled23]

yea im a full initiate of my fraternity

i have contacted HQ and they have sent me the info on how to create a new chapter, i sat out in the school courtyard a few times just to see what kind of intrest there is in a new frat on campus and i got 4 names and e-mails in total and thats nothin 2 get excited about.

The thing is that im workin full time as well as goin 2 school full time so i know i'm not gonna have much time to put into this. Its not an excuse but school comes first and then i need money 2 stay in school so yea its gotta be done.

now that i think about it i'm prolly not gonna have time to pledge a new fraternity anyway, so i guess i can look into that social affiliate thing and if not i'll just rock my jersey solo for now.

thanks for all the help people

[RU OX Alum]

don't try to find brothers and make them your friends, find friends and make them your brothers

what I mean is....make friends, like regular, from class or whatever, then pick two or three who are your closest/coolest allies, and get them to join, odds are they will get excited about starting a new fraternity (esp. freshmen and sophmores) and help you build from there.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

don't try to find brothers and make them your friends, find friends and make them your brothers

what I mean is....make friends, like regular, from class or whatever, then pick two or three who are your closest/coolest allies, and get them to join, odds are they will get excited about starting a new fraternity (esp. freshmen and sophmores) and help you build from there.

Excellent point.

I started a local with me only. But, I played pool with a couple of guys and they were interested. They were required to be in ROTC and found others. There were others who were in other GLOs and left for different reasons and became interested.

Now, how many Fraterities are at your campus and is there a need there for another?

If you have four who are interested then, that is a start. Do they have friends? If yes, then if each one of them got four that equals 17 to start with. That is about what Beta Chi ended up starting with.

Everyone usually has time restictions so it is nothing new. Can your HQ send someone down to help recruit if you get @ that number and are they interested in that area?

PM me and maybe we can discuss it off of site!