question about de-brothering

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

You are now at your new School and want to start a Chapter.

1. Contact your HQ.
2. Are there other Chapters close by?

He already answered that in the second sentence of his post:

Originally Posted by Confuzzled23

Where i live now there are no chapters near me, the closest is 3 hours away.

Confuzzled, I think your best bet is to talk with the HQ of the fraternity you joined last spring -- both about the possibility of assistance in starting a chapter and, if that's not going to happen, about your other options.

If a new chapter of your org isn't going to happen, you could talk with Lambda Sigma Upsilon about whether they have a "social affiliate" sort of things -- some orgs/chapters allow "orphaned Greeks" to participate with them in social activities (but not ritual or business) under certain circumstances.

[Confuzzled23]

yea im a full initiate of my fraternity

i have contacted HQ and they have sent me the info on how to create a new chapter, i sat out in the school courtyard a few times just to see what kind of intrest there is in a new frat on campus and i got 4 names and e-mails in total and thats nothin 2 get excited about.

The thing is that im workin full time as well as goin 2 school full time so i know i'm not gonna have much time to put into this. Its not an excuse but school comes first and then i need money 2 stay in school so yea its gotta be done.

now that i think about it i'm prolly not gonna have time to pledge a new fraternity anyway, so i guess i can look into that social affiliate thing and if not i'll just rock my jersey solo for now.

thanks for all the help people

[RU OX Alum]

don't try to find brothers and make them your friends, find friends and make them your brothers

what I mean is....make friends, like regular, from class or whatever, then pick two or three who are your closest/coolest allies, and get them to join, odds are they will get excited about starting a new fraternity (esp. freshmen and sophmores) and help you build from there.

[Questquetupense]

Here's another scenario,
Let's say ethically, there's another reason for wanting to deactivate from a chapter. By ethically, I mean there is a conflict with members in the chapter and their exposure to ethnic diversity, sexuality, religious affiliation, economic class, etc.

I know of a few (if not more than I dare to mention) guys that have described their membership as being "sold something, and didn't get their money's worth". Granted these are smaller schools in my area away from metropolitan areas where the majority of the members are from these secluded areas or upperclass clusters founded the organizations.

Nevertheless, should these young men be "harrassed" or "made fun of" for characteristics that are out of their control? And secondly, shouldn't they have the right to be released from an "abusive relationship", much like that of a marriage that is detrimental to you psychological wellness. Marriage is a good example in that, you take an oath to do certain things. Abuse is not covered in the ceremony's text, it's more like a grey area. What do you guy's think?

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by Questquetupense

Should these young men be "harrassed" or "made fun of" for characteristics that are out of their control?

No they should not. Unfortunately, it happens.

And secondly, shouldn't they have the right to be released from an "abusive relationship", much like that of a marriage that is detrimental to you psychological wellness. Marriage is a good example in that, you take an oath to do certain things. Abuse is not covered in the ceremony's text, it's more like a grey area. What do you guy's think?

Yes. They have the right to terminate their membership.

[knight_shadow]

Ugh. Every time I see "de-brothering" I want to throw up.

[moe.ron]

I keep thinking de-flowering.