The Spring 2007 Update

[JonoBN41]

Not to belabor the point, but my guess is that each alumnus who receives this publication is going to do what I did, and go right to own chapter's listing to see what number they're up to. He's going to be disappointed that either the chapter's not doing so well, or recognize that a mistake has been made and no one caught it.

Some of the data are three or four years out of date. Tom, since you know the actual current stats at Pitt State, I looked back in a few editions of the Paedagogus and found the following:

1997, 47th edition, 546
2000, 48th edition, 564
2003, 49th edition, 595

The "current" number of 552, therefore, seems to go back almost ten years.

Staff has volunteer proof readers (I'm one of them) who would have picked up on these mistakes in a second. I know because I did.

The Educational Foundation should also take advantage of the free resources available to them, because when you're asking for money, people are more likely to donate when they know you're paying attention to detail and care enough about each chapter (and each reader) to get everything right.

Anything less sends the opposite message.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by JonoBN41

Not to belabor the point, but my guess is that each alumnus who receives this publication is going to do what I did, and go right to own chapter's listing to see what number they're up to. He's going to be disappointed that either the chapter's not doing so well, or recognize that a mistake has been made and no one caught it.

Some of the data are three or four years out of date. Tom, since you know the actual current stats at Pitt State, I looked back in a few editions of the Paedagogus and found the following:

1997, 47th edition, 546
2000, 48th edition, 564
2003, 49th edition, 595

The "current" number of 552, therefore, seems to go back almost ten years.

Staff has volunteer proof readers (I'm one of them) who would have picked up on these mistakes in a second. I know because I did.

The Educational Foundation should also take advantage of the free resources available to them, because when you're asking for money, people are more likely to donate when they know you're paying attention to detail and care enough about each chapter (and each reader) to get everything right.

Anything less sends the opposite message.

No, Brother Jono, Belabor away because you have points well taken.

I have gotten an update from IHQ of Alums of LX Z and Brother Pete Cole is in the process of ciphering them out!

The last update I had was # 549 before this last one sent to me by Brother Jason Pearce.

He also asked that that any updates be done via automatic email with the update program which I continually place on LX Z Alumni emails.

I also directed him to this Site to maybe give us more information on what, and how it needs to be done and how it will be done.

Yes, it is important for us as Alumni to be able to contact our Brothers and they should be the center of information. But, of course, it also depends on the information that is input to them and if they get it done in a timely manner.

Times or important for us and all of the Brothers to keep updated in more ways than one!

Thank you for bringing this up in the first place!

[boz130]

Greetings from beautiful Normal, IL, home of Illinois State University and Beta-Omicron. I'm here for the Founders Day festivities. RE: the idea that IHQ gets information from the chapters, that's mostly true.

However, there was a period in the 90's when our reporting was lousy. In fact, this came to a head when we initiated B-O 1000 about 3-1/2 years ago. It turned out that there were 4 men who hadn't gotten their paperwork in to IHQ (a.k.a. the Gamma didn't do it for them).

We took all sorts of photos w/B-O #1 and the guy we thought was B-O 1,000. By our count, he was the 1,000th initiate. If you spoke to someone in Indy, he was #996.

At any rate, it took us about a month of back-and-forth e-mails between the alumni president and IHQ to finally get things corrected. Garbage in, garbage out, right?

As I've heard, "Communism works in theory. In practice, however..."--

In ZAX,
BF

[Tom Earp]

Brotehr Bill, you are to funny!

Now, I guess the point is how does the "Most Current Update" get updated?

What is infuriating, is the Zetas get charged for what is listed via IHQ for membership and the money had better soon be sent to IHQ as this is a portion of the life blood for LXA and there is a heafty fine. If IHQ is not keeping this updated, how much more often are other things missed and Zetas are being charged for members who have either graduated or dropped out of school?

As I said, it is a two way street. If information is sent in in a timely manner then why is it not so placed in the records the same way?

I know LX Z has had to call the question many times for this. Zetas normally are scratching for finances as is IHQ.

[JonoBN41]

BOZ,

Thanks for the story. Have a great time at Founders Day! I hope it's a good one. Will catch up with you later.

ZAX,
Jono

[boz130]

There's definitely some investigation needed on this issue. I was having an animated discussion w/one of my "century grandsons", BOZ 1030, during the Founders Day open house on Saturday.

Imagine my surprise when I got home, found the Update in my pile of mail and discovered that Beta-Omicron has only initiated 964 men. Whaaa????? The #1,000 discrepancy was taken care of back in 2004.

I realize that I was a Communications major and that cipherin' and cogitatin' weren't really part of the curriculum, but it seems to me that something's wrong here...

[docroc67]

Brothers,

Anybody have any thoughts about how "illegals," or men who were initiated by a local Zeta without the knowledge of IHQ, might factor into this situation?

Yours in ZAX,

Mike Raymond,
Z-U Zeta

[JonoBN41]

Originally Posted by boz130

Xalepa Ta Kala
If it's worth doing, it's worth doing well.

I'll have to vote for Bill's tag line.

Congratulations on the six new brothers, Mike.

ZAX,
Jono