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03-30-2007, 06:01 PM
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So to get this topic back on course.
I've already answered the topic but to be more detailed, I'm still not picky on black versus African American or even African diasporic if we're going beyond "race."
On a different note that relates more directly to what macallan, DSTRen and I were typing about in the last few pages (and to what folks said before that):
Instead of just focusing on the terms (black versus African American, etc.), people should examine what being of a particular group implies or entails.
These are the negatives of the title "black" because they have been used to caricature and minimize a culture and contribution of a group of people.
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03-30-2007, 06:06 PM
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Instead of just focusing on the terms (black versus African American, etc.), people should examine what being of a particular group implies or entails.
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Why, because you said so?
You just told me that their is a before and after, if that really applies, that means it would be legitimate to conclude that the terms black versus African American etc. should also apply.
If not, your beginning and between rant was just rubbish, something for you to use in an effort to save face.
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03-30-2007, 06:10 PM
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Instead of just focusing on the terms (black versus African American, etc.), people should examine what being of a particular group implies or entails.
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As well as where those implications come from - who creates and maintains them in our culture - and how to begin to dismantle them.
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03-31-2007, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS
So to get this topic back on course.
I've already answered the topic but to be more detailed, I'm still not picky on black versus African American or even African diasporic if we're going beyond "race."
On a different note that relates more directly to what macallan, DSTRen and I were typing about in the last few pages (and to what folks said before that):
Instead of just focusing on the terms (black versus African American, etc.), people should examine what being of a particular group implies or entails.
These are the negatives of the title "black" because they have been used to caricature and minimize a culture and contribution of a group of people.
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I think it does matter in the grand scheme of things what people of African descent in the USA define themselves as. I think alot of the social problems facing our people today comes from this perpetual identity crisis... we can still feel the affects of slavery today, in our everyday lives, because we can not define who WE are!
You can't have a future with out a past...and so much of OUR history is unknown to us, so where do we go from here?
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03-30-2007, 01:08 PM
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There are People here in America who have white parents and they call their self black. Not because they have a black parents though, but more so because more so they want to identify with their black side. Here in America, it is a cool thing to be black, almost like a fad. Being black will allow you more fun and the acceptance by the people who are real, hip and trend setting, those people being, black people. I understand the plight of people who are obviously mixed with white but I do not identify with them.
My family is a family full of generations of black people who only intermingle with their own kind, that being African decent people. I am one of those my self, I only mingle with my own kind, that being African Americans, other descendants of African slaves and Africans on the continent, they are my people, they are a part of who I am.
My reason for telling this is because, I was just out buying some food and this Asian girl who looked like she may have had some black in her down the line was talking to me and she went out of her way to project what Arican Americanss call the swaggar, it's a way that African American people talk, move and connect when amongst each other. I didn't identify with her but she thought she identified with me. The thing about those kind of people who try to project the black image just because they probably have 2% black blood in them,or no black blood at all but what they perceive as a black style, they don't really identify with Africa, nor do they care to. They actually think black people in America are their own kind of race aside from Africans. Now tell me, why would they think that if they identified with where the black in them came from, that place being Africa? To me, black means I am African decent, not just black alone. That black in me means something, it means I am African.
I once worked with a Mexican who told me I was not like the Africans on the continent but do you know why she said that? She said that because her distorted image of African people is that they are jungle people, people who are not civilized. how does one expect for AA's who acknowledge and are proud of their African Genes, Roots and DNA to settle for that? I let them know immediately that they have not seen real African people if that is what they think and even if they do see Africans on television who are poor and being projected as savage, I let them know that those people are my people as well. I really don't care what people who can not think for their self think or feel or believe.
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03-30-2007, 01:09 PM
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*bangs head against wall*
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Because you don't understand what she was saying?
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03-30-2007, 01:25 PM
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Because you don't understand what she was saying?
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No, because I think what she said, that I put in bold, is complete asinine.
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03-30-2007, 01:27 PM
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No, because I think what she said, that I put in bold, is complete asinine.
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Is that because you don't understand what she meant?
If you understand what she meant, why don't you discuss her point and yours instead of labeling something assinine?
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03-30-2007, 01:54 PM
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Frankly, I think the idea that "acting black" for the purpose of being accepted by the "real, hip and trend setting people.....those people being black" is extremely idiotic.
I didn't realize that "here in America" it was "cool to be black" or "cool" to be any race for that matter. Furthermore I didn't realize that acting like a black person was a fad. I guessed I missed that one.
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03-30-2007, 05:22 PM
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Because you don't understand what she was saying?
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Your original post in response to mines, clearly shows that at first, you didn't understand what I saying either. You later came back and broke it down using you critical thinking to express that I may have been speaking in second person, which I was but that was not what you originally stated.
Now your pride from my first direct post to you won't let you see where you originally made your mistake in critiquing my post. You must be some type of on line guru for greekchat and you don't want your status threatened by my analysis of what you did.
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03-30-2007, 05:33 PM
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mines
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Normally I would stop here in reading your post. But today is a good day and I knew you'd type something dumber that should be read.
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clearly shows that at first, you didn't understand what I saying either.
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I assumed your post was of substance. I honestly don't think you even know what you were typing about. My interpretation of your post in my responses to macallan are no different than my interpretation of your post when I first responded to it. If you fail to see that, you're just not bright.
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critiquing my post.
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I don't know what you're talking about. I did not critique your post. I'm critiquing you and your posts now because I see that you're dumber than you initially let on.
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03-30-2007, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Sista
Your original post in response to mines, clearly shows that at first, you didn't understand what I saying either. You later came back and broke it down using you critical thinking to express that I may have been speaking in second person, which I was but that was not what you originally stated.
Now your pride from my first direct post to you won't let you see where you originally made your mistake in critiquing my post. You must be some type of on line guru for greekchat and you don't want your status threatened by my analysis of what you did.
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The only place you've posted at all on GC is in this thread. How about you back off of my Soror for a minute and tell us what you're here for anyway? Are you even a member of a GLO, or are you just here to argue and make yourself look ridiculous?
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03-30-2007, 05:59 PM
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The only place you've posted at all on GC is in this thread. How about you back off of my Soror for a minute and tell us what you're here for anyway? Are you even a member of a GLO, or are you just here to argue and make yourself look ridiculous?
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Not as ridiculous as you as you insult, for no reason so ever but to insult.
I only posted to this topic because I just joined yesterday and I have not time to move around and check out other topics.
Why am I hear?
Answer: because I chose to be
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03-30-2007, 04:22 PM
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What are you, some type of Neanderthal
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