Plegdes wearing letters???

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by NutBrnHair

IMHO, you should "learn" sisterhood, not "earn" it.

I'm in favor of all members...new and old...wearing letters.

We "earn" membership and "learn" sisterhood.

I'm glad that "pledges" wearing letters isn't up to individual chapters' opinions for Delta. This thread is really old so this stuff has been said over and over.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

We "earn" membership and "learn" sisterhood.

I'm glad that "pledges" wearing letters isn't up to individual chapters' opinions for Delta. This thread is really old so this stuff has been said over and over.

And that is a problem?

If you or yours may happen to Haze is that alright also as long as it is not known?

If The New Members are not good enough to have them wear letters why were they pledged in the first place?

They do not know Your or anyone elses Ritual secrets so hide them under a basket instead of proudly saying Hi, I am a new member of So and So GLO!

Makes me not want to join yours or any other who does not like me enough to be proud enough to be with You.

[cuteASAbug]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Makes me not want to join yours or any other who does not like me enough to be proud enough to be with You.

That's ok because I don't see Delta Sigma Theta inviting you to join anywhere in the foreseeable future.

[DSTCHAOS]

Tom Earp, from the 2 sentences that made sense, your questions have been answered in this thread already.

Ditto @ cuteASAbug

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

And that is a problem?

If you or yours may happen to Haze is that alright also as long as it is not known?

If The New Members are not good enough to have them wear letters why were they pledged in the first place?

They do not know Your or anyone elses Ritual secrets so hide them under a basket instead of proudly saying Hi, I am a new member of So and So GLO!

Makes me not want to join yours or any other who does not like me enough to be proud enough to be with You.

Difference in terminology. Our new members, i.e., new initiates can wear our letters. Our candidates for membership (formerly know as pledges) cannot.

[piphiangel314]

When we join, we were able to immediately start wearing our letters. They actually gave us a shirt and a bag on bid day with our letters.

However, we could own nothing with our crest on it until after initiation. That also goes with our lavalier.

[DSTCHAOS]

You don't need to explain yourself in terms of what "earn" means. (I can't speak on the issue with whatever org you're in)

I and many others are familiar with the different meanings of "earn." I figured you didn't mean hazing, although some do equate "earn" with hazing. OTW's and SWTX's responses to your post read like PR statements.

[ajswital]

Earn your letters! They shouldnt be simply handed over on the first day of your pledge process.

Originally Posted by ajswital

Earn your letters! They shouldnt be simply handed over on the first day of your pledge process.

Have you even bothered to read the whole thread?

What might work for you may not work for everyone. Thank goodness for that.

[AOII Angel]

As an NPC woman, I'm glad that we don't put an emphasis on "earning" letters. I don't, however, begrudge anyone who thinks it's an important part of their groups rites (as long as "earning" really doesn't mean hazing.) For AOII (and I presume the other NPC groups) the women we choose to invite for membership are felt to represent the ideals of our organizations before being taught them. The new member period is really meant to educate the member so she can decide whether or not to make that lifetime commitment not to determine whether or not she is worthy of initiation (no need to comment on our lower than stellar alum involvement rates, we're well aware of them!) Turning down a new member for initiation is an almost unheard of event. We let them wear our letters because even without being initiated, they are MEMBERS of the organization. It's also really good advertisement, which in the cut-throat world of NPC recruitment is extremely important. If other groups do it differently, that's their prerogative. We like the way we do it.

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

As an NPC woman, I'm glad that we don't put an emphasis on "earning" letters. I don't, however, begrudge anyone who thinks it's an important part of their groups rites (as long as "earning" really doesn't mean hazing.) For AOII (and I presume the other NPC groups) the women we choose to invite for membership are felt to represent the ideals of our organizations before being taught them. The new member period is really meant to educate the member so she can decide whether or not to make that lifetime commitment not to determine whether or not she is worthy of initiation (no need to comment on our lower than stellar alum involvement rates, we're well aware of them!) Turning down a new member for initiation is an almost unheard of event. We let them wear our letters because even without being initiated, they are MEMBERS of the organization. It's also really good advertisement, which in the cut-throat world of NPC recruitment is extremely important. If other groups do it differently, that's their prerogative. We like the way we do it.

Well said.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

Well said.

Thanks, Peppy!

[Jeremy121588]

i know my chapter of SAE is strict on not allowing pledges to wear letters of anykind. We see it as they have to earn the right to wear our letters.

[DSTCHAOS]

teehee

[PhiMuGirl07]

We are not allowed to wear letters during our new member period at all. Not on a shirt, tote, or even on our cars. We can wear Phi Mu spelled out but not the Greek letters. This is because we don't know what the mean until after initiation. This to me makes it more special when you finally get to wear letters to school. The only exception is if we have a big Philanthropy event like kids day then we can borrow letters for the day. I remember I wore mine as long as possible that day!