Plegdes wearing letters???

Originally Posted by LiDdLMiSsGrEeK

for my sorority pledges are not allowed to wear letters or sport them in any fashion. Pledges are also not to write the letters until they are fullfledged sisters. They can write the whole name out, but I'm not sure if they're allowed to wear it or not. However to distinguish pledges from sisters, pledges wear pledge pins as well as other things to distinguish them from sisters. They do not what our letters mean and they have not earned them. As a sister or brother of your GLO how do, or how would, you feel about pledges wearing letters before initiation? I know I would be like "hey you haven't gone through everything that I had to go through to earn MY letters. You don't deserve them." also if a pledge can wear letters before init. if they do drop how can u guarantee they will not sport "their letters"?

I don't think I could ever take this person's posts seriously. I blame the Togglecase. Seriously guys, WHY DO YOU STILL FEEL THE NEED TO TyPe LiKe ThIs? WhY GoD WhY?

Wasn't there a SpiNeLLi who was posting here recently?

[ladygreek]

Glad this was bumped, so i could add my $19.13 worth. One of the reasons my org (can't speak for the rest of the NPHC) does not allow our Intake group to wear our letters is that completion of the process is not guaranteed. Look at some of the other threads in this forum about folx de-pledging.

Plus they have their own symbols (including a pin) to be worn until they are duly initiated as a member.

Also, it is not a matter of keeping the group secret so much as it is forbidding the walking in line, dressing identically, giving greetings, etc. in public as we did pre-1988. (Delta adopted a new process before the NPHC as a whole did in response to the growing number of hazing violations.) That process served as a model for the other NPHC groups to develop their own.

Why were the above seemingly innocent activities considered hazing? Because of the 20/80 rule. There were those who took them to the extreme causing financial hardship and public embarrassment. So because of the 20 percent we had to throw the baby out with the bath water.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

Glad this was bumped, so i could add my $19.13 worth. One of the reasons my org (can't speak for the rest of the NPHC) does not allow our Intake group to wear our letters is that completion of the process is not guaranteed. Look at some of the other threads in this forum about folx de-pledging.

Plus they have their own symbols (including a pin) to be worn until they are duly initiated as a member.

Also, it is not a matter of keeping the group secret so much as it is forbidding the walking in line, dressing identically, giving greetings, etc. in public as we did pre-1988. (Delta adopted a new process before the NPHC as a whole did in response to the growing number of hazing violations.) That process served as a model for the other NPHC groups to develop their own.

Why were the above seemingly innocent activities considered hazing? Because of the 20/80 rule. There were those who took them to the extreme causing financial hardship and public embarrassment. So because of the 20 percent we had to throw the baby out with the bath water.

As we've always said, NPC and NPHC are very very different. I don't think I'd want new members wearing letters either if initiation wasn't a sure thing. NPC has an extremely high initiation rate for women who pledge. NPHC likely is not nearly as high, but the process is also not as regimented and universal across different groups. Also, the process is certainly not advertised or discussed as much as in NPC, so who knows what the percentage is! If I thought that a significant number would drop or be dropped prior to becoming full members, I wouldn't want them to represent AOII. Since the vast majority of our new members do initiate, I have no problem with them wearing our letters.

[CULater]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

NPHC likely is not nearly as high, but the process is also not as regimented and universal across different groups.

what do you mean?

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by OTW

I don't think I could ever take this person's posts seriously. I blame the Togglecase. Seriously guys, WHY DO YOU STILL FEEL THE NEED TO TyPe LiKe ThIs? WhY GoD WhY?

I so agree with you on this. At first I thought folx did it because the capitalized letter spelled out something. But then I realized that in most cases it was just random and stupid.

[urbanfemme]

Originally Posted by LiDdLMiSsGrEeK

for my sorority pledges are not allowed to wear letters or sport them in any fashion. Pledges are also not to write the letters until they are fullfledged sisters. They can write the whole name out, but I'm not sure if they're allowed to wear it or not. However to distinguish pledges from sisters, pledges wear pledge pins as well as other things to distinguish them from sisters. They do not what our letters mean and they have not earned them. As a sister or brother of your GLO how do, or how would, you feel about pledges wearing letters before initiation? I know I would be like "hey you haven't gone through everything that I had to go through to earn MY letters. You don't deserve them." also if a pledge can wear letters before init. if they do drop how can u guarantee they will not sport "their letters"?

For my chapter at my school, that's how it works. We're also not allowed to wear our colors together either.

[DEVODUDE]

In ZBT, our new members are allowed to wear the letters of the fraternity, however, they are not allowed to wear national brother pin or chapter pin until they successfully complete the membership development process and are initiated into the brotherhood.

[LiDdLMiSsGrEeK]

I present it that way because that is how it was given to me by my big sister as well as the way it appears on all my sweatshirts. I do not type in that fashion that is just how my name worked out for me.

[IliveinaTOOLbox]

Spinelli I think they were referring to your title. The whole liddlmissgreek. Fix it if you can. Also I'll pm you with the rest of what you need to know. See you on wednesday =)

[When Doves Cry]

ugh. i hate when people type like that, alternating between capital and lowercase. It's so junior high. It reminds me of 6th grade girls.

[MissBoggzz]

Hey spinelz wut's up =) still down for today? And dun let them bi***** tell you how to or how not to type LOL. I still heart you.

[LiDdLMiSsGrEeK]

hahah lol you're too much you really are. I'll keep that in mind if I ever want drama. Yes we NEED to get together today for sum sisterhoodly bonding lol. =)

[LiDdLMiSsGrEeK]

oh and u totally jocked my smileys HAH lol you always do =] wut got you doing =)??

[MissBoggzz]

AHAHA jerk I was inspired. LMAO luff you idiot =]

For some reason these recent posts remind me so much of our friend lovepwrgrl.