Plegdes wearing letters???

[Senusret I]

And I only WISH that this was one of the dumbest posts I have ever seen.

Why can't you understand that EVERY organization is different? Nobody goes around here talking about DUMB Lambda Chi Alpha and its practices are, so what gives you the right to talk to others the way you are?

Different organizations have different traditions! GET OVER IT!

When I became an APO pledge, we were given items that were ENTRUSTED to us. Nothing we were given belonged to us as pledges, specifically the pledge book and pledge pin. I don't think it made us work harder, but it made us APPRECIATE the solemnity of our initiation. Actually LEARNING what something meant and then being given the right to wear it.

Same with Alpha....I appreciate my letters because they were mysterious to me for so long.

And i RESPECT the fact that others do it differently! My school had NO NPC/IFC system, so a lot of what i know about it, I learned from greekchat and then later, when i went to grad school someplace where they had such a system. It's different, and if they are okay with it, i am okay with it!

I never would have though about having colors for my family tree....it's a tradition!

Cultural relativism man....it is a MUST that we adopt it in the Greek communities!

Originally posted by Tom Earp
Jeeze stichted letters or not!

What BS.

You do not want the other people on campus to know that these People are Proud enough to Associate with Your Organization???

What bushel Basket of Fruit or Vegies are you hiding you light under!

Letters or Names on shirts do not sully them, it is advertiseing that Hey We have these New Members! They in turn will help promote your Organization! Which in turn will help your Chapter Grow!

Oh, Dont Tell Me, you are all virgins intil the rite of Initation!

Give it a rest! God what a sick way to recognize your New Associates! YOU CANNOT SHOW WHO YOU ARE WITH!

This is one of the dumbest threads I have seen!

[Senusret I]

AND WHY CAN'T I IGNORE YOU??????

THAT SUCKS!

[starang21]

Originally posted by 33girl
Yes, but one is female and one is male. I pointed that out.

I've got a crest sweatshirt that is pink, and no one ever said "oh you are trying to be like DZ or Phi Mu." I simply liked the way it looked on pink.

My point was that no, I don't think colors are as important to the NPC groups, because there are just plain more of them so the same colors get used over & over, and because the meaning usually isn't secret.

regardless, that has nothing to do with it. being male or femaile is irrelevant. the colors are just as important as the letters and hold just as much meaning to NPHC organizations.

[Eclipse]

Originally posted by Buttonz
In regard to not wearing your colors while in the NM process:
If your favorite color is pink, and you are know to wear pink at least 2-3 times a week, and you were online for a group that had pink as a color and couldn't wear pink, wouldn't not wearing pink give some hint that you were online?

If an undergraduate young lady was seriously interested in AKA as an undergrad student, even if her favorite color was pink, I doubt very seriously if she would wear pink 2 -3 times per week even before she because an offical "intakee" or what ever they are called. It would probably be seen as disrespectful by members of the organization and, because NPHC sororities are so closely aligned with their colors (unlike NPC) sororities other folks might try to "guess" her interest.

As an official 'old head' who went to college in the 80s when NPHC organizations pledged "above ground" it is also interesting to note that the pledgees did wear the organization that they were pledging colors. If you have seen School Daze, you will see Pyramids (the name that members of Delta Sigma Theta called --still call? I'm not sure-- their pledgees) from the Eta Kappa chapter (at Spelman college, my alma mater! ) with red sweaters on over white turtlenecks sitting in the stand during the homecoming football game. Other sororities did not allow the combination--even then. For instance, Ivies (the name that the members of Alpha Kappa Alpha called their pledgees) at my school could wear green (usually paired with white), but never work pink while they were on-line. Also interesting to note that this was the time that pledgees were expected to dress alike most, if not all of the time. BTW, they STILL did not wear letter though until they were offically members. Evidently pledgees were also instructed that they could not even touch the letters. I remember a particularly funny event in the cafeteria where a member was trying to make a pledgee touch her letters and the pledgee was running around like she was trying to make her put her hand on a hot stove! LOL Of course that would definately be considered hazing nowadays, but back then it was the norm. AS a matter of fact, people used to love to be in the caf when the pledgees came in 'cause they knew they would get a show! LOL

[starang21]

Originally posted by DGMarie
Well, they are certainly noticeable. And they appear to be very expensive from what I've seen. I've always thought of them as being half written in secret code. but certainly fun!

they are expensive. i got two of them, and they cost me a pretty penny. i gotta get my little brother one because he's in the bond now.

[starang21]

Originally posted by DGMarie
What does all the embroidery/symbols mean (well, unless secret!)

it's a secret

[starang21]

Originally posted by DeltaSigStan
I was told by someone (NOT a Delta Sig) to NOT buy a jacket like that because I'd look too much "like one of those cultural greeks".

I'm still buying one.

Hell, I get siht cause I had my pledge class embroidered on the sleeve, my last name on the hood, and my nickname on the back

man, you need to get that ish and be out as hell.

[33girl]

Originally posted by starang21
regardless, that has nothing to do with it. being male or femaile is irrelevant. the colors are just as important as the letters and hold just as much meaning to NPHC organizations.

I did mean the colors that the letters are in (sorry if that wasn't clear). Like you said - the colors are as important as the letters.

To sum up: in NPHC, wearing another group's colors - in letters or in general attire - is looked upon the same as wearing another group's letters would be in NPC or IFC. Agreed?

[Buttonz]

What I meant was....before a girl was on-line for AKA, she wore a lot of pink, because itwas her fav color. TO suddenly go from wearing a lot of pink to none would give anyone who was close to her the idea she was on line for them IMO

[tunatartare]

I'm with Buttonz on this one

[starang21]

Originally posted by 33girl
I did mean the colors that the letters are in (sorry if that wasn't clear). Like you said - the colors are as important as the letters.

To sum up: in NPHC, wearing another group's colors - in letters or in general attire - is looked upon the same as wearing another group's letters would be in NPC or IFC. Agreed?

no, and like i said, the fact that it's a frat and a sorority with the same colors has nothing to do with it. in the NPHC, wearing your letters in anything EXCEPT your colors is a BIG NO NO. if i saw a bruh that had letters in anything except brown and gold, that's a situation.

[Munchkin03]

Originally posted by Senusret I
And I only WISH that this was one of the dumbest posts I have ever seen.

Why can't you understand that EVERY organization is different? Nobody goes around here talking about DUMB Lambda Chi Alpha and its practices are, so what gives you the right to talk to others the way you are?

Different organizations have different traditions! GET OVER IT!

When I became an APO pledge, we were given items that were ENTRUSTED to us. Nothing we were given belonged to us as pledges, specifically the pledge book and pledge pin. I don't think it made us work harder, but it made us APPRECIATE the solemnity of our initiation. Actually LEARNING what something meant and then being given the right to wear it.

Same with Alpha....I appreciate my letters because they were mysterious to me for so long.

And i RESPECT the fact that others do it differently! My school had NO NPC/IFC system, so a lot of what i know about it, I learned from greekchat and then later, when i went to grad school someplace where they had such a system. It's different, and if they are okay with it, i am okay with it!

I never would have though about having colors for my family tree....it's a tradition!

Cultural relativism man....it is a MUST that we adopt it in the Greek communities!

AMEN!

[SmartBlondeGPhB]

Originally posted by dzrose93
Our girls can wear DZ letters, but cannot wear the Delta Zeta crest in any way until after initiation. Not on a lavaliere, hat, car, shirt, etc.

We're the same (at least when I was active, and I think we still are). A few of my sisters were so excited to buy me my first item with our crest once I was initiated. Yes, it was a shot glass............ And yes, I still have it.

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by Senusret I
AND WHY CAN'T I IGNORE YOU??????

THAT SUCKS!

You can't ignore mods, so you're stuck with me too.

Quite frankly, it doesn't matter to me what other orgs do as long as they don't mind what we do. Our umbrella councils are very different, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. While I certainly think the way that AKA or SGRho operates is a little odd, I know that the sisters of those sororities feel the same way about what Gamma Phi or Tri Delt does. It happens.

I just wish SOME PEOPLE would learn to behave and be a little bit more respectful.

[Kevin]

I don't know about the whole argument here. I mean, what are we arguing about?

Who cares if someone else does something differently?

If it hurts them, who suffers for their actions? They do. Should we bother them about it? Nope.

I think it's perfectly valid here to say what your organization does.

I think it's overstepping to tell them that they are wrong for what they are doing.