Outraged Readers Cancelling SI Subscriptions

[Drolefille]

I've been looking for more sources, and all that I come up with lead to allhiphop.com and one mention of Sandra Rose's blog. All of the articles are cut and paste about Beyonce keeping quiet about being the first non-model cover of the swimsuit issue and then a mention that "some readers think there have been mass cancellations"

It does seem to be percolating its way up the news, albeit very very slowly. At some point it'll be addressed by Sports Illustrated.

[jon1856]

The story/history of the Swim suit issue via Slate:
The Sports Illustrated Swimsuit IssueAn intellectual history.

By Bryan Curtis
Posted Wednesday, Feb. 14, 2007, at 1:22 PM ET

http://www.slate.com/id/2159853?nav=ais

Something of interest to this thread;

"Campbell's 1978 issue proved a watershed moment for cheesecake. In Brazil, Campbell had persuaded model Cheryl Tiegs to pose for a throwaway shot in a white fishnet top, her nipples fully exposed. Somehow the shot made its way into the magazine. According to The Franchise,Michael MacCambridge's excellent history of the magazine, nasty letters poured into Time-Life headquarters—more than 340 subscriptions were cancelled—and the swimsuit issue reached new heights of ignominy. But in some ways, the Tiegs fiasco was also a logical endpoint. Barring nudity, the Sports Illustrated model had nothing left to reveal. Thus for the next few decades the editors had to maintain a careful balance: They had to make the issue seem much racier than it actually was, while still maintaining its wholesome aesthetic."

As for the OP/source of thread, all I can find is this:
http://mauricebroaddus.proboards24.com/index.cgi

http://sandrarosenews.blogspot.com/2...elling-si.html

Those and all the others I have seen have same source.

Makes you kind of wonder.......

[MzDoctaKay]

Originally Posted by jon1856

The story/history of the Swim suit issue via Slate:
The Sports Illustrated Swimsuit IssueAn intellectual history.

By Bryan Curtis
Posted Wednesday, Feb. 14, 2007, at 1:22 PM ET
http://www.slate.com/id/2159853?nav=ais

Something of interest to this thread;

"Campbell's 1978 issue proved a watershed moment for cheesecake. In Brazil, Campbell had persuaded model Cheryl Tiegs to pose for a throwaway shot in a white fishnet top, her nipples fully exposed. Somehow the shot made its way into the magazine. According to The Franchise,Michael MacCambridge's excellent history of the magazine, nasty letters poured into Time-Life headquarters—more than 340 subscriptions were cancelled—and the swimsuit issue reached new heights of ignominy. But in some ways, the Tiegs fiasco was also a logical endpoint. Barring nudity, the Sports Illustrated model had nothing left to reveal. Thus for the next few decades the editors had to maintain a careful balance: They had to make the issue seem much racier than it actually was, while still maintaining its wholesome aesthetic."

As for the OP/source of thread, all I can find is this:
http://mauricebroaddus.proboards24.com/index.cgi

http://sandrarosenews.blogspot.com/2...elling-si.html

Those and all the others I have seen have same source.

Makes you kind of wonder.......

I got excited at first...but then when I got to the end and saw Sandra Rose's name again.......

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by MzDoctaKay

I got excited at first...but then when I got to the end and saw Sandra Rose's name again.......

Not sure if you read the Slate link.

But I do agree with you about Ms. Rose's "link" to all of this.

[MzDoctaKay]

Originally Posted by jon1856

Not sure if you read the Slate link.

But I do agree with you about Ms. Rose's "link" to all of this.

I did get through that article.....very interesting...I appreciate your posting it.

[7thSonofOsiris]

There are two things that we might be missing family. The grand issue is that throughout the course of history, nothing sells like both, (1.)controversy and (2.) sex. The fact that SI was smart enough to market this issue correctly by placing both into one magazine, is a modicum of intelligence. They placed "B" on the cover because everybody loves her, and she's hot to def. They placed the new Dick Gregory on the inside because they knew that folks would wake up and pay attention, which I bet they thought, could have positively affected magazine sells. Those folks who are cancelling their subscriptions will be replaced by new readers. Me personally, I wouldn't have gone out like a clown and did it like he did it. Kanye needs to learn how to act as a man of distinction, versus wanting to be the walking billboard of all things controversial. I dig his talent, but not his actions in this case.

7thSon

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by 7thSonofOsiris

There are two things that we might be missing family. The grand issue is that throughout the course of history, nothing sells like both, (1.)controversy and (2.) sex. The fact that SI was smart enough to market this issue correctly by placing both into one magazine, is a modicum of intelligence. They placed "B" on the cover because everybody loves her, and she's hot to def. They placed the new Dick Gregory on the inside because they knew that folks would wake up and pay attention, which I bet they thought, could have positively affected magazine sells. Those folks who are canceling their subscriptions will be replaced by new readers. Me personally, I wouldn't have gone out like a clown and did it like he did it. Kanye needs to learn how to act as a man of distinction, versus wanting to be the walking billboard of all things controversial. I dig his talent, but not his actions in this case.

7thSon

Your statement is very sound. But:
What controversy? I have seen it only here and the "blog".

[7thSonofOsiris]

What's up Jon?

It's been a while buddy boy. What made me say controversy was the fact that people are talking about it. Nothing more - nothing less. We'll see futuristically if any real controversy happens as a result of that picture. I truly think that if people are reacting to that picture, they should examine the true reasons why they may object to that picture. They should ask themselves what is it about the picture that's causing them to have issues with it.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by 7thSonofOsiris

What's up Jon?

It's been a while buddy boy. What made me say controversy was the fact that people are talking about it. Nothing more - nothing less. We'll see futuristically if any real controversy happens as a result of that picture. I truly think that if people are reacting to that picture, they should examine the true reasons why they may object to that picture. They should ask themselves what is it about the picture that's causing them to have issues with it.

Hummmm-Interesting and kind of true.

[MzDoctaKay]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I've been looking for more sources, and all that I come up with lead to allhiphop.com and one mention of Sandra Rose's blog. All of the articles are cut and paste about Beyonce keeping quiet about being the first non-model cover of the swimsuit issue and then a mention that "some readers think there have been mass cancellations"

It does seem to be percolating its way up the news, albeit very very slowly. At some point it'll be addressed by Sports Illustrated.

If it was false, I would think SI would've come forth by now...... no?

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by MzDoctaKay

If it was false, I would think SI would've come forth by now...... no?

Maybe, but I mean its getting no attention, so whats to deny? If they make a statement it makes it a story. Right now its pretty much just a blogger story, and you can find anything you want on blogs these days.

[MzDoctaKay]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Maybe, but I mean its getting no attention, so whats to deny? If they make a statement it makes it a story. Right now its pretty much just a blogger story, and you can find anything you want on blogs these days.

You certainly have a point there. I guess the lesson learned (unless it's too early to learn one), is to find more than one CREDIBLE source before commenting........

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Maybe, but I mean its getting no attention, so whats to deny? If they make a statement it makes it a story. Right now its pretty much just a blogger story, and you can find anything you want on blogs these days.

Agree.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by MzDoctaKay

If it was false, I would think SI would've come forth by now...... no?

Ditto to the other responses, coming out now only makes more people aware of the rumors, it doesn't lay widespread rumors to rest. If it does work its way up and finally a national newssource gets a hold of it and prints it, they'll respond. I'd suspect that one of the reasons it isn't getting printed in a national source is a lack of sources. You can't just copy and past the same paragraph into an AP article.

If this really were true, I could understand people being upset if the issue became a "Music issue" That's not why they buy SI or the Swimsuit Issue. If it were about race I'd agree that it was stupid, but SI is, I would think, pretty racially diverse as a whole. This isn't a crowd that would freak out or that pays particular attention to Kanye and his views on biracial women. They mostly just want to see the women.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Ditto to the other responses, coming out now only makes more people aware of the rumors, it doesn't lay widespread rumors to rest. If it does work its way up and finally a national newssource gets a hold of it and prints it, they'll respond. I'd suspect that one of the reasons it isn't getting printed in a national source is a lack of sources. You can't just copy and past the same paragraph into an AP article.

If this really were true, I could understand people being upset if the issue became a "Music issue" That's not why they buy SI or the Swimsuit Issue. If it were about race I'd agree that it was stupid, but SI is, I would think, pretty racially diverse as a whole. This isn't a crowd that would freak out or that pays particular attention to Kanye and his views on biracial women. They mostly just want to see the women.

I don't think many people would be upset with a black girl on the cover, however that Kanye pic may bother some. Interracial stuff is still a touchy topic within both communities, and especially when it involves such a divisive figure as Kanye. However, I still think its probably a situation where Rose or somebody's source found out that a couple people had called and suddenly it was a "flood of calls."