Any word on the Pike Colony at Howard

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

Wow if A&T is so bad why do you attend there and why did your frat--excuse me--your fraternity want to charter there?

I've heard that it's a wonderfully esteemed University with accomplished faculty, students and graduates. Too bad he felt the need to down it to pump up his chapter. I don't see the connection he was trying to make.

[Trey_P-I_47]

First off I have decided that in my best interest, I should transfer, because I am in fact miserable where I am at right now. I came to A & T for Football and a specific major, Football ended due to surgery, and I , like so many other college students decided to change my major.

Now, I am not speculating on whether or not A & T is a good school. It is FACT that they are under sever financial Audits, it is again FACT that the Police Chief had to resign, also FACT that we had to replace a Chancellor. So I am not downing the school for my benefit (Or my fraternities), and alot of these reasons have helped determine why I am transferring in the first place, along with the un-happiness of my current situation. In fact I am transferring right down the road, because I love the area.

Ok now on to why we would charter here, apparently none of yall have ever looked for somewhere to belong, or a group of people that share your ideals. Well it just so happens, that in 2001, a small group of guys, aided by the help of a Lambda Chi Faculty member, decided that they would like to start a group for the people who in fact did share the same values. Well, thats how we got started, just like any other organization, but then we started to recruit, and lo and behold there were more people who wanted to be a part of that same ideal, either because they didnt want to be a part of the NPHC organizations, or because, like me, they were just looking for some guys who essentially were looking for very similar things. Well in 2005, our nationals decided that it would be a great idea to give us our charter, and thats exactly what happened. We were awarded our charter, and have been a growing presence on campus ever since.

So now I am curious as to why we are such a.....what was it.....'Joke'........on campus, because that is what I really replied to this for anyway.

[Trey_P-I_47]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I've heard that it's a wonderfully esteemed University with accomplished faculty, students and graduates. Too bad he felt the need to down it to pump up his chapter. I don't see the connection he was trying to make.

Ok now lets look at this, if 1 out of every 4 students is on academic probation and only 17% of incoming Freshmen are graduating in 4 years, then my math tells me that the blame either lays with the University (Faculty included) or the students, and I dont think that all of these cases is due to the fact that the student doesnt want to be there, because in fact someone is paying for it, and its kinda pointless to waste your money even though some still do.

So yes I obviously made a mistake by coming here, but I had several reasons for coming in the first place.

1) Major
2) Football
3) Money
4) Heard it was a good school as well
5) An area I thought I would like

It isnt until you look deeper and investigate a little, and then other things happening as well, that you determine how the situation is, and if you want to remain there.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Trey_P-I_47

First off I have decided that in my best interest, I should transfer, because I am in fact miserable where I am at right now.

That's unfortunate. Good luck to you.

Originally Posted by Trey_P-I_47

So yes I obviously made a mistake by coming here, but I had several reasons for coming in the first place.

That's unfortunate. Good luck to you.

Well, your rants against A&T have proven that looks can be deceiving and your chapter is, instead, a force to be reckoned with. I will keep that in mind next time I visit the yard.

[Drolefille]

I'm kind of getting the impression that LXA isn't "well thought of" because they're not doing all the same things that the NPHC chapters do. But wasn't that a (pre)complaint about the Pikes at Howard? How they better not start doing X Y and Z because it isn't a PiKA tradition?

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I'm kind of getting the impression that LXA isn't "well thought of" because they're not doing all the same things that the NPHC chapters do. But wasn't that a (pre)complaint about the Pikes at Howard? How they better not start doing X Y and Z because it isn't a PiKA tradition?

You ran with Tom Earp's train of thought didn't you? Chaos merely stated that no one pays them any attention and SHE had not seen them representing--which could have been in a number of ways.

That then got translated by others to "not being well thought of" and it's because they don't act like the the NPHC. Which then led to a dissertation about how horrible a school NC A&T is anyway.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

You ran with Tom Earp's train of thought didn't you? Chaos merely stated that no one pays them any attention and SHE had not seen them representing--which could have been in a number of ways.

That then got translated by others to "not being well thought of" and it's because they don't act like the the NPHC. Which then led to a dissertation about how horrible a school NC A&T is anyway.

Actually I didn't even read Earp. I got that from the "not representing" comment. I don't know anything about the school, but that comment made me want to ask for clarification from the start. I just delayed in hope the conversation would get there (and of course it went off on a tangent)

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Actually I didn't even read Earp. I got that from the "not representing" comment. I don't know anything about the school, but that comment made me want to ask for clarification from the start. I just delayed in hope the conversation would get there (and of course it went off on a tangent)

Okay, gotcha.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

Chaos merely stated that no one pays them any attention and SHE had not seen them representing--which could have been in a number of ways.

That then got translated by others to "not being well thought of" and it's because they don't act like the the NPHC. Which then led to a dissertation about how horrible a school NC A&T is anyway.

Exactly.

[AKA_Monet]

/hijack

It seems to me that there is a lot of OUR kids not knowing how to go the college--period...

And it ain't about US not telling them either, because we are. But there is a complete LACK of expectations by adults BEFORE these children get admitted to college/university.

We know most high schools are not preparing OUR students. We understand that. And with the tests to get out of high school, most of OUR students will not have high school diplomas to move on to legally sustainable wages.

I cannot tell you the increased observations of "back talk" I have received from UNIVERSITY STUDENTS piping up at me because of they fail to plan and try to constitute that as my problem.

I do not mind general questioning of the subject matter, but I do have a problem when one fails to read course materials.

But then my dumbassed university sent an email to faculty about how a kid in NorCal wanted to go our Medical School and somehow wanted to visit the school and demanded we pay his assets up here... He hasn't a clue how many kids are trying to get into this Med School... Nada.

So the expectations and logic of most entering college students... I don't know...

The United States will not be competitive in the STEMI fields...

Oh well.

/end hijack

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by Trey_P-I_47

Ok now lets look at this, if 1 out of every 4 students is on academic probation and only 17% of incoming Freshmen are graduating in 4 years, then my math tells me that the blame either lays with the University (Faculty included) or the students, and I dont think that all of these cases is due to the fact that the student doesnt want to be there, because in fact someone is paying for it, and its kinda pointless to waste your money even though some still do.

So yes I obviously made a mistake by coming here, but I had several reasons for coming in the first place.

1) Major
2) Football
3) Money
4) Heard it was a good school as well
5) An area I thought I would like

It isnt until you look deeper and investigate a little, and then other things happening as well, that you determine how the situation is, and if you want to remain there.

All I can say is that the U of MN has had it share of problems--low graduation rates, rapid changes in leadership, athletic scandals, and unjustified rising tuitions causing folx to jump ship. So A&T isn't alone in this. I suggest you do a thorough investigation of new schools before transferring. You might find the same problems under the surface.