Appalachian State - Possible NPC Expansion

[irishpipes]

Originally Posted by ASUADPi

I might definately be in a minority saying this, but how much more diverse do you want greek life sororities to be? I personally find 7 a good assortment. It would be different if there were like two or three. Yes, out of 26 Nationals, 7 isn't a lot, but you have to look at the campus. Is there enough interest to support another chapter? I think it would be different if we weren't hearing that all but 1 (if I remember correctly from what I've read on this thread) are at total, but one chapter isn't. To me, how can a campus be ready for expansion when there is a chapter not at total. Yes, I remember reading that this chapter hasn't been at total for a number of years, but seriously greek life in general is only as strong as your weakest link.

Obviously, I don't go to appstate (my best friend did), but I have to agree with the lady from Chi Omega who said that she wanted the current chapters to become stronger before adding another one.

I disagree. While I don't have an opinion about App State, this reasoning hasn't played out historically. Sometimes one or more chapters are below total and/or do not take quota because of an image problem, and fair or not, PNMs have decided they would rather not be Greek than join that chapter. They might very well consider a new, untainted chapter. Like I said, I have no idea what the situation is at App State, but some chapters just won't ever become stronger, no matter what Panhellenic does.

[ZTAngel]

Originally Posted by irishpipes

I disagree. While I don't have an opinion about App State, this reasoning hasn't played out historically. Sometimes one or more chapters are below total and/or do not take quota because of an image problem, and fair or not, PNMs have decided they would rather not be Greek than join that chapter. They might very well consider a new, untainted chapter. Like I said, I have no idea what the situation is at App State, but some chapters just won't ever become stronger, no matter what Panhellenic does.

Yes. I agree 100%.

[khfadpi]

Originally Posted by ZTAngel

Yes. I agree 100%.

So do I.

[ASUADPi]

I just read in our forum that quota was 17. If this is true, isn't that kind of a low quota to be adding a new chapter? I don't know enough about formal recruitment, but isn't quota based on how many women are participating in formal recruitment?

I don't know it just seems that if quota is 17 and quota is based on girls going through formal, 17 x 7 (number of houses) than the "total" would be 119. That just seems like a really small number if lauroo615 said approximately 50 women didn't bid match, which would leave 69 women that did. (These numbers sound off though, again I don't know enough about formal to know how quota is calculated).

It seems that if the numbers are accurate that there are some things that need to be worked out in sorority recruitment before they add another chapter. You want all your chapters to be strong before you add another competitor to the playing field.

Can anyone shed any light on the numbers and how many chapters made quota and how many didn't?

Like I said the quota I got was from my forum, when another sister posted the FR results. She listed quota and bids accepted. For our chapter at ASU she listed 17 as quota and bids accepted as 19, hence where I got the number of 17.

[aopirose]

Quota is set based on the number of PMs who participate at a certain point. Let’s say there are 6 sororities, 4 rounds: Open house, Philanthropy, Sisterhood and Preference. Panhellenic decides to set Quota based on the number of women accepting Preference invitations. 150 women register for recruitment but by Preference, 100 accept, so Quota is 17.

Whenever expansion does occur, it is preferable that all chapters are at or above Total. That doesn't always happen especially if a chapter is so small that it isn't competative numbers wise. At that point, the chapter needs to decide if it is going to fish or cut bait. Who knows? They may be happy with thier size.

[ASUADPi]

Originally Posted by aopirose

Quota is set based on the number of PMs who participate at a certain point. Let’s say there are 6 sororities, 4 rounds: Open house, Philanthropy, Sisterhood and Preference. Panhellenic decides to set Quota based on the number of women accepting Preference invitations. 150 women register for recruitment but by Preference, 100 accept, so Quota is 17.

Whenever expansion does occur, it is preferable that all chapters are at or above Total. That doesn't always happen especially if a chapter is so small that it isn't competative numbers wise. At that point, the chapter needs to decide if it is going to fish or cut bait. Who knows? They may be happy with thier size.

Thank you for the clarification!

Is there a quota set before preference, so that chapters have a general idea?

[Drolefille]

It isn't usually finalized before then. You have an estimate because you know how many PNMs are left, but there's no way to know how many will be left by Pref night for certain. Based on aopirose's example, estimated quota would have started at 25 (150/6) and worked its way down to 17 as girls dropped out or were completely cut.

You can look at statistics for previous years and guess but it's never certain.