Any word on the Pike Colony at Howard

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

As a follow up to this question, I will just say that from the outset, I was surprised that Pike in particular was chosen. Knowing how much Howard students love to "do their research" I would have assumed that a fraternity with more "non-sectarian" roots may have been chosen, such as Pi Lambda Phi.

TKE might have been a good choice as well, being that they were the first fraternity with a non-discrimination clause.

[NinjaPoodle]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

TKE might have been a good choice as well, being that they were the first fraternity with a non-discrimination clause.

I have to disagree with you on that one considering Ronald Regan was a member of TKE. He's not exactly popular with the black folks. For some reason, I thought Delta Upsilon being a non-hazing, non-secetive org might have been a choice.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by NinjaPoodle

I have to disagree with you on that one considering Ronald Regan was a member of TKE.

You can't judge the largest (well, most members) NIC men's Fraternity based on ONE member.

That would be like me telling a girl they shouldn't join SGRho because they don't like Hattie McDaniel.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

You can't judge the largest (well, most members) NIC men's Fraternity based on ONE member.

That would be like me telling a girl they shouldn't join SGRho because they don't like Hattie McDaniel.

Indeed.

[NinjaPoodle]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

You can't judge the largest (well, most members) NIC men's Fraternity based on ONE member.

That would be like me telling a girl they shouldn't join SGRho because they don't like Hattie McDaniel.

Obvious point and I completely agree however that doesn't change how people feel. I personally know people (black & other races) who would not join simply because of a particular member. You and I both know that's not smart but I don't tell people how to feel, I just give them the facts and let them decide for themselves. That's all you can do. Any person who does this probably shouldn't be in the org anyway.*shrug* Ya know?

[Tom Earp]

Good to hear that The Pike Chapter is doing well at Howard as the LXA Chapter is at UNC A & T.

It is up to the young men to make a decission to either go with a BGLO, or look else where. They must have looked else where.

I beleive TKE was the first to Colonize on a HBC and LXA the second.

Does it feel any different than anyone going to a School and not finding any group that they feel comfortable with?

[DSTdimepiece]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Good to hear that The Pike Chapter is doing well at Howard as the LXA Chapter is at UNC A & T.

It is up to the young men to make a decission to either go with a BGLO, or look else where. They must have looked else where.

I beleive TKE was the first to Colonize on a HBC and LXA the second.

Does it feel any different than anyone going to a School and not finding any group that they feel comfortable with?

Yes to that last question because you can transfer schools, not your affilation. I would pose the same question to the LXA chapter at NC A&T that I did to the people at the Pike colony.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by DSTdimepiece

I would pose the same question to the LXA chapter at NC A&T that I did to the people at the Pike colony.

Sidebar:
No one pays the LXAs at A&T any attention. I have never seen then representing or anything. LOL.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Sidebar:
No one pays the LXAs at A&T any attention. I have never seen then representing or anything. LOL.

I am just wondering what you mean by not representing?

Does that mean not acting like a current or all of the BGLOs on campus?


I am sure that each GLO has their way of doing things and do not have to immulate those who are curretly there.

[UGAalum94]

I can't answer the specific question addressed to particular members of non-traditionally black GLOs at those two historically black colleges, but I'll speculate.

If you really believe in the ideals of your group, you want to see them take root everywhere. If you are sincere about not discriminating on the basis of race, then you'd try to have a chapter at every college that you could.

Just as you'd hope that your GLO could recruit minority members at majority white campuses with NPHC group to choose from, you hope that you'd attract some members at historically black colleges.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by DSTdimepiece

Yes to that last question because you can transfer schools, not your affilation. I would pose the same question to the LXA chapter at NC A&T that I did to the people at the Pike colony.

Actually, they can. Of course as in many if not all GLOs, they must be voted on to be accepted. Unless there was a major problem with thier last Chapter, they will be able to affiliate. My chapter just had this happen with a LXA from the Un. of Kansas.

I have always felt that if a member of My Fraternity was thought well enough to be initiated in a chapter they were for a very good reason. They are still my Brother!

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Actually, they can. Of course as in many if not all GLOs, they must be voted on to be accepted. Unless there was a major problem with thier last Chapter, they will be able to affiliate. My chapter just had this happen with a LXA from the Un. of Kansas.

I think she meant that one can transfer from one school to another, but cannot transfer from one GLO to another.

[Tom Earp]

Sorry if I miss interpreted.

One would think that they could not change affiliations of GLOs.

[DSTRen13]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

TKE might have been a good choice as well, being that they were the first fraternity with a non-discrimination clause.

Are you sure on that? I know this is a sidetrack, but my fiance's fraternity (Phi Kappa Sigma) claims to be the first as well. This is from their national website, explaining one of their public mottos:

"Brotherhood is more than skin deep."

In 1858, a proposal was introduced to the Fraternity that would have made Phi Kappa Sigma an all-white organization. The proposal was unanimously voted against, therefore making the Fraternity the first to be anti-discriminatory. Our Brothers choose men to become members based on the worth of their character, not superficialities like race, religion, or wealth.


I guess it may be that TKE was the first to repeal a discrimination clause, but PKS never had one to repeal?

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by DSTRen13

I guess it may be that TKE was the first to repeal a discrimination clause, but PKS never had one to repeal?

I think it's more like they were the first one to HAVE the actual written clause.

PKS voting to not be all white is not the same has actually being non-discriminatory.

I can't think of the words to describe it, but it's like TKE took the affirmative to come right out and state that they wouldn't discriminate blacks, and PKS took the negative, as in we're not officially all white by process of elimination.

ETA: My friend, who is a TKE from Drake, said that the "If you can't go Greek, go TKE", was actually started by the fraternity itself as a campain to Blacks who couldn't join other "white GLOs".