Appalachian State - Possible NPC Expansion

[FSUZeta]

those of us who have been on gc for a while have pretty much learned how to read posts from regular posters-new people don't have the history to understand that things that may appear inferred or veiled, may just be the tone that a particular poster usually posts in.

i have to admit i raised an eyebrow at a couple of posts-it sounded like some posters were calling foul, forgetting that the women doing the explaining might not have the extensive npc background that others have, therefore, they are not able to explain the actual process that the school is using.

we all need to untwist our panties, calm down, and wish this group luck-that is, if the we haven't totally turned them off from affiliating with an npc sorority.

[ZTAngel]

Originally Posted by FSUZeta

we all need to untwist our panties, calm down, and wish this group luck-that is, if the we haven't totally turned them off from affiliating with an npc sorority.

I agree. We're so quick to pounce on the GC newbies who don't have as much experience with NPC terminology or processes.

[Leslie Anne]

Originally Posted by FSUZeta

those of us who have been on gc for a while have pretty much learned how to read posts from regular posters-new people don't have the history to understand that things that may appear inferred or veiled, may just be the tone that a particular poster usually posts in.

i have to admit i raised an eyebrow at a couple of posts-it sounded like some posters were calling foul, forgetting that the women doing the explaining might not have the extensive npc background that others have, therefore, they are not able to explain the actual process that the school is using.

we all need to untwist our panties, calm down, and wish this group luck-that is, if the we haven't totally turned them off from affiliating with an npc sorority.

Well put, FSUZeta.

It should be interesting to see how it all plays out. I wish the group well.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by FSUZeta

i have to admit i raised an eyebrow at a couple of posts-it sounded like some posters were calling foul, forgetting that the women doing the explaining might not have the extensive npc background that others have, therefore, they are not able to explain the actual process that the school is using.

Apparently what started all the fuss was my response to a particular post (again, since deleted by the poster, who is a member of an NPC group). My intent was to clear up misconceptions in that post (mainly, that NPC would tell the school what sorority they were getting) and warn them of problems they may encounter (mainly, the chance all the members of the interest group would not be chosen to colonize the national). If I was too blunt in doing so, well, so be it.

[PGD-GRAD]

Irishpipes gave a detailed account of AOPi going onto the Rose-Hulman campus last year. She indicated that there was some discussion in the Panhellenic about allowing the interest group to be allowed to expand as a national NPC group. I was wondering how successful they have been as a third group. Were the other groups welcoming? Have they done well in their first rush?

It is great when the welcome mat is out for expansion. When there is some tension, as she indicated, I just wondered how well the new group had done on campus so far. Have they been installed?

[lauroo615]

Hello everyone!

Here is an article written in our school newspaper about our possible...well...you know!

Check it out! http://theapp.appstate.edu/content/view/2024/43/

It didn't reflect 100% of what we wanted to say (we definitely do NOT want a "change on campus", and they didn't care to write that we wanted to become a part of the greek community as a whole, but, oh well.) but overall I think we're happy with it.

Our interest meeting is in a few days! Oh man! I'm excited AND nervous about this...

[ASUADPi]

I might definately be in a minority saying this, but how much more diverse do you want greek life sororities to be? I personally find 7 a good assortment. It would be different if there were like two or three. Yes, out of 26 Nationals, 7 isn't a lot, but you have to look at the campus. Is there enough interest to support another chapter? I think it would be different if we weren't hearing that all but 1 (if I remember correctly from what I've read on this thread) are at total, but one chapter isn't. To me, how can a campus be ready for expansion when there is a chapter not at total. Yes, I remember reading that this chapter hasn't been at total for a number of years, but seriously greek life in general is only as strong as your weakest link.

Obviously, I don't go to appstate (my best friend did), but I have to agree with the lady from Chi Omega who said that she wanted the current chapters to become stronger before adding another one.

Plus, with the possible switch to formal fall (the article said that the decision hadn't been formalized yet) no one knows how many women will be interested in participating and joining greek life.

I think greek life is wise in holding back for expansion until they see how a formal fall goes.

Is the campus using the new release figures?

[irishpipes]

Originally Posted by ASUADPi

I might definately be in a minority saying this, but how much more diverse do you want greek life sororities to be? I personally find 7 a good assortment. It would be different if there were like two or three. Yes, out of 26 Nationals, 7 isn't a lot, but you have to look at the campus. Is there enough interest to support another chapter? I think it would be different if we weren't hearing that all but 1 (if I remember correctly from what I've read on this thread) are at total, but one chapter isn't. To me, how can a campus be ready for expansion when there is a chapter not at total. Yes, I remember reading that this chapter hasn't been at total for a number of years, but seriously greek life in general is only as strong as your weakest link.

Obviously, I don't go to appstate (my best friend did), but I have to agree with the lady from Chi Omega who said that she wanted the current chapters to become stronger before adding another one.

I disagree. While I don't have an opinion about App State, this reasoning hasn't played out historically. Sometimes one or more chapters are below total and/or do not take quota because of an image problem, and fair or not, PNMs have decided they would rather not be Greek than join that chapter. They might very well consider a new, untainted chapter. Like I said, I have no idea what the situation is at App State, but some chapters just won't ever become stronger, no matter what Panhellenic does.

[ZTAngel]

Originally Posted by irishpipes

I disagree. While I don't have an opinion about App State, this reasoning hasn't played out historically. Sometimes one or more chapters are below total and/or do not take quota because of an image problem, and fair or not, PNMs have decided they would rather not be Greek than join that chapter. They might very well consider a new, untainted chapter. Like I said, I have no idea what the situation is at App State, but some chapters just won't ever become stronger, no matter what Panhellenic does.

Yes. I agree 100%.

[lauroo615]

Originally Posted by ASUADPi

I might definately be in a minority saying this, but how much more diverse do you want greek life sororities to be? I personally find 7 a good assortment. It would be different if there were like two or three. Yes, out of 26 Nationals, 7 isn't a lot, but you have to look at the campus. Is there enough interest to support another chapter? I think it would be different if we weren't hearing that all but 1 (if I remember correctly from what I've read on this thread) are at total, but one chapter isn't. To me, how can a campus be ready for expansion when there is a chapter not at total. Yes, I remember reading that this chapter hasn't been at total for a number of years, but seriously greek life in general is only as strong as your weakest link.

Obviously, I don't go to appstate (my best friend did), but I have to agree with the lady from Chi Omega who said that she wanted the current chapters to become stronger before adding another one.

Plus, with the possible switch to formal fall (the article said that the decision hadn't been formalized yet) no one knows how many women will be interested in participating and joining greek life.

I think greek life is wise in holding back for expansion until they see how a formal fall goes.

Is the campus using the new release figures?

I respect your opinion, and I appreciate your reply!

However, only one organization is truly under total, the rest are flourishing. Even this group has an incredibly large spring class, and therefore has grown significantly from the fall. Spring recruitment overall went extraordinarly well, except for the roughly 50 women who did not find homes.

Not including these ~50 women, our interest group includes 55 women. I'm definitely not positive on this, but I believe total at Appalachian is 80 women.

Class time!

[ASUADPi]

Originally Posted by lauroo615

I respect your opinion, and I appreciate your reply!

However, only one organization is truly under total, the rest are flourishing. Even this group has an incredibly large spring class, and therefore has grown significantly from the fall. Spring recruitment overall went extraordinarly well, except for the roughly 50 women who did not find homes.

Not including these ~50 women, our interest group includes 55 women. I'm definitely not positive on this, but I believe total at Appalachian is 80 women.

Class time!

Were the new release figures used?

I don't think I'm understanding so I'll ask

Okay are you saying that if you counted the 50 women who didn't bid match and the 55 in your interest group, that over 100 women haven't "found their home"?

I guess it doesn't make sense to me (emphasis on to me, I'm not understanding it) to include the interest group number unless every woman in the interest group has gone through formal with an open mind and didn't bid match. In that case, yeah no home was found.

Originally Posted by irishpipes

I disagree. While I don't have an opinion about App State, this reasoning hasn't played out historically. Sometimes one or more chapters are below total and/or do not take quota because of an image problem, and fair or not, PNMs have decided they would rather not be Greek than join that chapter. They might very well consider a new, untainted chapter. Like I said, I have no idea what the situation is at App State, but some chapters just won't ever become stronger, no matter what Panhellenic does.

Great point! Didn't think of it that way. So very true!

[ISUKappa]

Originally Posted by PGD-GRAD

Irishpipes gave a detailed account of AOPi going onto the Rose-Hulman campus last year. She indicated that there was some discussion in the Panhellenic about allowing the interest group to be allowed to expand as a national NPC group. I was wondering how successful they have been as a third group. Were the other groups welcoming? Have they done well in their first rush?

My husband is a Rose alumnus and AOII was extremely visible on campus when we went to Rose homecoming last year. While I cannot speak for that chapter, I do believe they have been as successful as an organization can be on a small campus that is predominantly male.

There's a great link on the Rose AOII website on the steps the SIG took to bring another organization on campus and the timeline it entailed. Link

I know Tri Delta at Rose had a similar founding more than 10 years ago through an SIG. They were the second NPC organization on campus, preceeded by Chi Omega.

[aopirose]

Originally Posted by ISUKappa

My husband is a Rose alumnus and AOII was extremely visible on campus when we went to Rose homecoming last year. While I cannot speak for that chapter, I do believe they have been as successful as an organization can be on a small campus that is predominantly male.

There's a great link on the Rose AOII website on the steps the SIG took to bring another organization on campus and the timeline it entailed. Link

I know Tri Delta at Rose had a similar founding more than 10 years ago through an SIG. They were the second NPC organization on campus, preceeded by Chi Omega.

Thanks ISUKappa. You pretty much summed it up perfectly. We are hoping to charter this semester.