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Old 01-31-2007, 11:53 PM
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I was unaware that there still were "Sweet Heart" programs.
SAE dropped "Little Sisters" years ago, in part due to RM issues.
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Old 02-01-2007, 12:05 AM
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My friends in three different fraternities have told me that sweethearts are chosen based on how close the girl is with the guys in the chapter (but they NEVER choose a sweetheart who is dating one of the guys), looks, and how well they do in their interview. Also, the gifts they bring up during their interview plays a big part.
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Old 02-01-2007, 07:52 AM
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It seems wild to me that in some fraternities, this is something that's 'campaigned' for.

I was chosen to be a Sweetheart because I wasn't the girl getting drunk and making a fool of herself at the parties, showing as much skin as I could possibly show, wasn't making out in some corner, etc. I presented myself in a respectable way and I looked out for the guys who were at the time just my friends.

But, I'm sure that's not how it is in all other fraternities. Haha.
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Old 02-01-2007, 01:06 PM
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sorry to yell, but for the ookabillionth time...

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I was unaware that there still were "Sweet Heart" programs.
SAE dropped "Little Sisters" years ago, in part due to RM issues.
SWEETHEARTS AND LITTLE SISTERS ARE TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS. SWEETHEARTS ARE TO LITTLE SISTERS AS APPLES ARE TO SOCKS.

A sweetheart is one person chosen by the fraternity in an honorary capacity. There is no such thing as a sweetheart "program." It's like being a homecoming queen or something similar.

Little sisters go through a pledge program and function as an auxiliary group to the fraternity.
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Old 02-02-2007, 07:44 PM
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SWEETHEARTS AND LITTLE SISTERS ARE TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS. SWEETHEARTS ARE TO LITTLE SISTERS AS APPLES ARE TO SOCKS.

A sweetheart is one person chosen by the fraternity in an honorary capacity. There is no such thing as a sweetheart "program." It's like being a homecoming queen or something similar.

Little sisters go through a pledge program and function as an auxiliary group to the fraternity.
News to me-thank you for the information.

"Little Sisters" type programs were all that I ever heard of in any way, shape or form. First, second or third hand.

But I still have to wonder about RM/liability risks and issues. But that thread would be better off in the RM section.
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Old 02-02-2007, 09:17 PM
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News to me-thank you for the information.

"Little Sisters" type programs were all that I ever heard of in any way, shape or form. First, second or third hand.

But I still have to wonder about RM/liability risks and issues. But that thread would be better off in the RM section.
No Sigma Chi Sweetheart (chapter or International) is now - nor ever has been - a member of Sigma Chi Fraternity. Thus there are no Risk Management or liability issues per say.

There could be issues just like there could be issues for a House Mother living in the chapter house. Or an employee at IHQ. But again, to be clear, Sweethearts are not members of the Fraternity at all. Nor or they considered "sisters". Little or otherwise.
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Old 02-02-2007, 11:42 PM
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No Sigma Chi Sweetheart (chapter or International) is now - nor ever has been - a member of Sigma Chi Fraternity. Thus there are no Risk Management or liability issues per say.

There could be issues just like there could be issues for a House Mother living in the chapter house. Or an employee at IHQ. But again, to be clear, Sweethearts are not members of the Fraternity at all. Nor or they considered "sisters". Little or otherwise.
To the very best of my knowledege, there has been only one (1) woman member of SAE.

"Little Sisters" were not members as such.

The RM issue came up years ago and I just do not recall what the reasons were.
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Old 02-03-2007, 12:03 PM
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To the very best of my knowledege, there has been only one (1) woman member of SAE.

"Little Sisters" were not members as such.

The RM issue came up years ago and I just do not recall what the reasons were.
I don't recall the specifics (Title IX maybe?), but my understanding is that the "risk" has to do with federal law regarding keeping social GLOs single sex. A fraternity with an auxiliary group ("little sisters") that is recognized by the fraternity could open the door to the fraternity loosing that single sex status.

That risk (loss of single sex status) does not exist with having a chapter sweetheart.
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Old 02-03-2007, 12:38 PM
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The risk explained

My understanding of the risk in having little sister groups is related to how women became little sisters. Little sisters groups at some schools were formed much like any other "sorority" in that members were recruited and then "pledged". I have heard several tales of sexual favors or related activities for the fraternity men being a "requirement" to become a little sister. I have heard of groups where the women were treated as "servants" to the men in order to gain selection. There was bviously nothing honorable about being a little sister with these groups.

In terms of the law, if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck, it can be called a duck. Just because a little sister group are not initiated members, does not mean that fraternity will assume no liability for their actions. If they wear letters, if they wear t-shirts and do activities in the name of being a little sister of the fraternity, the fraternity can be held liable. Discouraging little sister/brother groups is one way to limit liability for the fraternity or sorority.
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