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				01-25-2007, 06:04 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS  If this is a FACT then they are idiots.  If this can be PROVEN then they should be chastised and disciplined.
 If you are just ASSUMING this theme because you saw Kappas with popped collars and loafers on, then you're in for a debate.
 
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It's not a big deal. If they want to finally dress nicely, I'm all for it. That'd be great!
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				01-25-2007, 06:52 PM
			
			
			
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			Who really cares anymore. I mean, if you're offended, be offended. Stereotypes are real, and there is a degree of truth to them. These are just some stupid kids having fun. Obviously they find things enjoyable about stereotypical black culture or else they wouldn't have a party for it. I mean, dressing up is pretty lame, but a lot of people drink corona and eat mexican on cinco de mayo. If we had a white holiday, yall could get drunk listening to Huey Lewis and go play golf. I know its different with black people because the history is distinct, but when people have white trash dress up parties, I don't think "they're making fun of me." I'm not really defending them, I don't really care. However, I think its good for people to realize that just because they're making fun of a group of people composed of your race, doesn't mean they're making fun of the race itself. I just wish this crap wouldn't end up on drudge report every time it happens.
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				01-25-2007, 06:57 PM
			
			
			
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			The point is why do it all--there are other themes, there are other things you can celebrate.  Why is it necessary for anyone to make fun of anyone?  Its not--these are young adults, they do know better, and this is just plain stupid.
 As far as saying that other cultures do it so it should be ok for us to do it--I know its cliched but "stupid is as stupid does."
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				01-25-2007, 06:57 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by shinerbock  Who really cares anymore. I mean, if you're offended, be offended. Stereotypes are real, and there is a degree of truth to them. These are just some stupid kids having fun. Obviously they find things enjoyable about stereotypical black culture or else they wouldn't have a party for it. I mean, dressing up is pretty lame, but a lot of people drink corona and eat mexican on cinco de mayo. If we had a white holiday, yall could get drunk listening to Huey Lewis and go play golf. I know its different with black people because the history is distinct, but when people have white trash dress up parties, I don't think "they're making fun of me." I'm not really defending them, I don't really care. However, I think its good for people to realize that just because they're making fun of a group of people composed of your race, doesn't mean they're making fun of the race itself. I just wish this crap wouldn't end up on drudge report every time it happens. |  
 Oh, My!   
 You are a heretic according to PCness!   
 How can you even think about saying something like this?   
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				01-25-2007, 06:59 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by shinerbock  Who really cares anymore. I mean, if you're offended, be offended. Stereotypes are real, and there is a degree of truth to them. These are just some stupid kids having fun. Obviously they find things enjoyable about stereotypical black culture or else they wouldn't have a party for it. I mean, dressing up is pretty lame, but a lot of people drink corona and eat mexican on cinco de mayo. If we had a white holiday, yall could get drunk listening to Huey Lewis and go play golf. I know its different with black people because the history is distinct, but when people have white trash dress up parties, I don't think "they're making fun of me." I'm not really defending them, I don't really care. However, I think its good for people to realize that just because they're making fun of a group of people composed of your race, doesn't mean they're making fun of the race itself. I just wish this crap wouldn't end up on drudge report every time it happens. |  who cares?  there wouldn't even be a news article if no one cared.  sounds pretty logical, right?  you're white so really, the feelings of people of color aren't exactly something you'd understand anyway.  
 
don't get offended when someone calls you ignorant, bigoted, racist, ect.  i think it's funny when people want to make fun of other cultures and/or people and then get mad when they called any of the above.
		 
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				01-25-2007, 07:10 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by starang21  who cares?  there wouldn't even be a news article if no one cared.  sounds pretty logical, right?  you're white so really, the feelings of people of color aren't exactly something you'd understand anyway.  
 don't get offended when someone calls you ignorant, bigoted, racist, ect.  i think it's funny when people want to make fun of other cultures and/or people and then get mad when they called any of the above.
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I rarely get offended. I do think it'd be stupid to call me bigoted or racist. I won't put it past you, however.
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				01-25-2007, 07:20 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by shinerbock  I rarely get offended. I do think it'd be stupid to call me bigoted or racist. I won't put it past you, however. |  
 Amazing isn't it?
 
 When I posted that my chapter had black members, they were called tokens.
 
 When I said I had black friends, they were also tokens.
 
 When I told a friend of mine a KAPsi to check out the GC, he flat told me these people are ignorant and have not a damn clue!  He has nevr come back on since! Wonder why?
 
Oh, shinerbock, they a call everyone who does not agree with them the same thing!   
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					Originally Posted by Munchkin03  LOL @ "sober people."
 I'll care about these incidents when they happen at a good school.
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			Perhaps the blacks at Tarleton State could throw a "white" party, maybe on Presidents' Day.
 They could dress up in ties and blazers with crests on the pockets, serve hors d'oeurves, speak very precisely, and discuss recent stock market trends while sipping Chevas Regal in leather wingback chairs in front of a crackilng fireplace.
 
 Then post pictures on the Internet. I would be oh... so offended.
 
 Seriously, I didn't see any pictures disrespecting Dr. King, or Barrack Obama, or Ray Charles, or any other upstanding person.
 
 I saw a parody of young black Americans today who themselves do not respect Dr. King and what he stood for. Anyone, of any race, who dresses, talks, and behaves in a ridiculous manner deserves, by definition, to be ridiculed. David Letterman makes fun of Richard Simmons all the time.
 
 People should not be expected to be sensitive and respectful of gangstas from the hood who create their own stereotypes, then get offended when someone mocks them. Rappers HAVE been shooting each other (but I haven't heard that someone like Neil Diamond gunned down the likes of Barry Manilow).
 
 Stop apologizing for reflecting reality, and stop getting so upset.
 
 As for fried chicken, I love it, and Aunt Jemina's pancakes are delicious. We all eat chicken and pancakes. But not all of us play music that booms up to a half mile away. Now that's insensitive, disrespectful, offensive, and unacceptable.
 
 You reap what you sow.
 
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					Originally Posted by shinerbock  I rarely get offended. I do think it'd be stupid to call me bigoted or racist. I won't put it past you, however. |  i didn't call you bigoted or racist, LOL.  quit projecting.
		 
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					Originally Posted by Elephant Walk  It's not a big deal. If they want to finally dress nicely, I'm all for it. That'd be great! |  Oh the irony of this.
		 
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