Important Question

[Tom Earp]

I find this very odd when it comes to BGLOs.

Many schools will not allow GLOs to come on campus especially NPH if they are not reaching numbers for present houses.

NIC GLOs are sometimes denied as there are enough for that particular school and the school population.

Would really like to get more information concerning this type of situation.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by L.O.C.K.

Is this process even legal? Like, if a group of guys wanted to start a chapter but an expansion ban was in place, couldn't they argue freedom of association and that it is infringing upon their rights as citizens/students?

Freedom of Association is protected by the First Amendment. It only prohibits the government from infringing on the right of freedom of association, so in this context, it only applies to public universities.

Beyond that, any college or university can choose what groups to recognize and what groups not to recognize. As long as such decisions are made on objective and evenly-applied criteria, there likely is not a problem. Just because a college doesn't recognize an org you belong to doesn't necessarily mean that the college is infringing upon any freedom of association rights.

The NAACP would be in a different catagory because of its political nature.

Originally Posted by PsychTau2

That AFA resolution is not binding on any campus or fraternal organization. AFA is a professional association, and has no governance over anyone but itself. So, they can suggest and resolve, but not force and require.

Exactly. Resolutions like this tend to be sound and fury, signifying nothing.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Freedom of Association is protected by the First Amendment. It only prohibits the government from infringing on the right of freedom of association, so in this context, it only applies to public universities.

Beyond that, any college or university can choose what groups to recognize and what groups not to recognize. As long as such decisions are made on objective and evenly-applied criteria, there likely is not a problem. Just because a college doesn't recognize an org you belong to doesn't necessarily mean that the college is infringing upon any freedom of association rights.

The NAACP would be in a different catagory because of its political nature.

Exactly. Resolutions like this tend to be sound and fury, signifying nothing.

Interesting, but is it equal rights for all or just a few and who make the decisions?

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Interesting, but is it equal rights for all or just a few and who make the decisions?

If you're talking about a private school, it's not a question of "rights" at all. The Constitution confers power on and limits the power of the federal government and defines the relationship of the federal government to the states and the states to each other; it simply doesn't apply to private institutions. And as PsychTau explained, even when the Constitution comes into play, purely social organizations don't have the protection that groups with political purposes have, since the freedom of association in the First Amendment is aimed primarily at association for the purpose of political (in the broadest sense) activity.

[FSUZeta]

lock, my question is "are all groups (npc, nic, pan-hell, multi-cultural) banned at present from colonizing on your campus, or is it just asian fraternal organizations?

if it is all groups, then i think you are probably going to have to be patient. the admin. must have a reason for banning expansion at present. your only alternative would be to become a squeeky wheel and prove to the administration that the campus needs an asian fraternity and show how the campus would benefit from the addition of the fraternity.

[L.O.C.K.]

I believe it is all Greeks. However, they don't have an Asian Fraternity, and we already have documented interest (ie a sizeable group of people).

Basically, it just seems really unfair to make these kids wait because clearly their needs are not being met by the campus at present.

And it is a public institution.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by L.O.C.K.

I believe it is all Greeks. However, they don't have an Asian Fraternity, and we already have documented interest (ie a sizeable group of people).

Basically, it just seems really unfair to make these kids wait because clearly their needs are not being met by the campus at present.

And it is a public institution.

Now, that brings up a realy interseting question of what and why?

If it is a National School as in State school, with public funds, how can they do this?