Yup...Yoga is the devil's work

[AlphaFrog]

Whatcha wanna bet that those parents had the fat kids that couldn't get into those poses and hate exercise in general.

/I'm just sayin'

[RU OX Alum]

it is something schools need to do becaus there are too many fat kids

there is hindu yoga, yeah, also buddhist and some atheist (devoid of religion or religously neutral) yoga out there, and probably some christian yoga too.

It just sounds like a couple of hicks who don't know anything.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

it is something schools need to do becaus there are too many fat kids

Then make them run laps or do something aerobic that will actually burn fat.

there is hindu yoga, yeah, also buddhist and some atheist (devoid of religion or religously neutral) yoga out there, and probably some christian yoga too.

Yoga traditionally is Hindu or Buddhist. There is indeed yoga adapted to Christian understandings (although these women would probably also consider that the work of that non-gentleman Satan) and yoga purely as exercise.

It just sounds like a couple of hicks who don't know anything.

Or who do know something of the history and origins of yoga, perhaps, but not enough and overreacted.

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Then make them run laps or do something aerobic that will actually burn fat.

Burning fat is only part of the solution there are three basic types of "strength" that your body needs to be strong

*cardio-pulmonary strength for breathing, good heart/lungs, good for endurance

*muscle strength - can you pick stuff up? can you take a blow, etc?

third and most overlooked

*flexability - it doesn't matter how "strong" or "fast" you are, if you don't have the full range of motion for any given body part, then you are at a disadvantage and this could lead to health problems later in life.

Although, you're right...these two were over-reacting

I think they just want their 15 minutes. These are the BC anti-yoga ladies of 2007, please take their picture so we can go home now.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

Burning fat is only part of the solution there are three basic types of "strength" that your body needs to be strong . . .

I understand all of that. I would just place yoga low on the list of PE priorities that overweight kids need. Dietary education for parents might help the most.

Originally Posted by centaur532

Buddhism isn't a religion, it's a faith practice and doesn't go against christianity.

What exactly is your definition of religion vs. "faith practice." FWIW, every dictionary I've consulted calls Buddhism a religion.

It's possible to be buddhist and christian.

I suppose it all depends on how one is defining "Buddhist" and "Christian." I understand that this may be a "correct" assertion from a Buddhist perspective; from a traditional Christian perspective, I think it would be exceedingly difficult to reconcile traditional Buddhist understandings and philosophies with orthodox Christianity. But that's a whole 'nother discussion.

[AlexMack]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Then make them run laps or do something aerobic that will actually burn fat.

Yoga traditionally is Hindu or Buddhist. There is indeed yoga adapted to Christian understandings (although these women would probably also consider that the work of that non-gentleman Satan) and yoga purely as exercise.

Or who do know something of the history and origins of yoga, perhaps, but not enough and overreacted.

Buddhism isn't a religion, it's a faith practice and doesn't go against christianity. It's possible to be buddhist and christian. But being that most people don't know that, I'm not surprised.
Also, my mum probably would have reacted the same way if I'd been doing yoga in school I think.

[valkyrie]

Originally Posted by centaur532

Buddhism isn't a religion, it's a faith practice and doesn't go against christianity. It's possible to be buddhist and christian. But being that most people don't know that, I'm not surprised.
Also, my mum probably would have reacted the same way if I'd been doing yoga in school I think.

Oh noes are we going there again? You cannot be Buddhist and Christian. You can be Christian and engage in certain Buddhist practices or agree with certain Buddhist philosophies, but you cannot be Christian and Buddhist.

ETA: Here is an earlier "discussion" on this issue.

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by valkyrie

Oh noes are we going there again? You cannot be Buddhist and Christian. You can be Christian and engage in certain Buddhist practices or agree with certain Buddhist philosophies, but you cannot be Christian and Buddhist.

That's right, and here's why:

Jesus and the Buddha said a lot of stuff that goes hand in hand, and a lot of stuff that contridicts each other. With the "new age" movement going for a more Bahai'i type thing than a U/U type thing, the commonplace practice is to claim to be observing the truth of both religions or even to be both "christian and buddhist"

It doesn't work because jesus said "I am the way to salvation/enlightenement/freedom"

and meanwhile buddha said "work out for yourself your own salvation/enligtenment/liberation." In Buddhism you save your self. That is not the only difference but it does make them mutually exclusive.

[valkyrie]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

It doesn't work because jesus said "I am the way to salvation/enlightenement/freedom"
and meanwhile buddha said "work out for yourself your own salvation/enligtenment/liberation." In Buddhism you save your self. That is not the only difference but it does make them mutually exclusive.

So only Jesus could be a Christian Buddhist. LOLZ.

[CutiePie2000]

valkyrie,
don't be reading those "devil" Harry Potter books either, you heathen you.

[valkyrie]

Originally Posted by CutiePie2000

valkyrie,
don't be reading those "devil" Harry Potter books either, you heathen you.

LOL I've never read any Harry Potter books, but I hate them a lot -- not because they're satan, though.

[Kevlar281]

One could argue that football is a religion in Texas but were not about to ban that.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by centaur532

Buddhism isn't a religion, it's a faith practice and doesn't go against christianity. It's possible to be buddhist and christian. But being that most people don't know that, I'm not surprised.
Also, my mum probably would have reacted the same way if I'd been doing yoga in school I think.

This post specifically might be best to look at in Val's linked thread - while you can jigger the specific terms however you want, almost every real authority disagrees with you.

[AlexMack]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

This post specifically might be best to look at in Val's linked thread - while you can jigger the specific terms however you want, almost every real authority disagrees with you.

My real authority is uh...my boyfriend's buddhist family. There are many types of buddhism...the buddhism you are most familiar with believes in reincarnation because they believe that one must go through many lifetimes to achieve enlightenment.
Soka Gakkai is Nichoren buddhism-the belief that personal enlightenment is possible for each person in this lifetime. Ergo-you can believe in enlightenment and still think that after death you're off to a much better place.
http://www.sgi-usa.org

Salvation is not enlightenment. FWIW.

And I knew by saying that it was a can of worms.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by centaur532

There are many types of buddhism...

And I knew by saying that it was a can of worms.

Sometimes, the can of worms can be avoided simply by not stating things in such broad and absolute terms. For example, a statement such as

"some forms of Buddhism might be considered more of a philosophy than a religion and might be compatable with the beliefs of some who consider themselves Christian,"

comes across quite differently from "Buddhism isn't a religion, it's a faith practice and doesn't go against christianity."

Otherwise, you can expect some Buddhists, such as Valkyrie, RU OX Alum and (I think) KSig RC, to take issue with the absolute and fairly easy to refute generalization that "Buddhism isn't a religion."

And again, what's the difference between a "religion" and a "faith practice"?