Schwarzenegger calls for Universal Health Coverage

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Phasad1913

As others on this site who are in the legal profession will attest to, when California does something, most likely the remaining states will be soon to follow.

I can't say I agree. Sometimes it happens, but often other states view California as a bit on the crazy side -- they'll wait and see how it works in a more "sane" state.

Originally Posted by Phasad1913

It's a morality issue, not a social one in and of itself. . . . For people to constantly fuss about "taxing the rich to help the poor" and then call themselves a Christian is completely hypocritical to me.

This characterization bothers me. While I believe on ethical, moral and religious grounds that everyone should have access to good healthcare, I think people can disagree about how to make that happen without having to be characterized as hypocrites. Unless you want to suggest that we should have a theocracy in this country, then there are valid, non-hypocritical, arguments that the taxing power of the government is not the proper or best way to achieve accessable healthcare for everyone.

[Phasad1913]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I can't say I agree. Sometimes it happens, but often other states view California as a bit on the crazy side -- they'll wait and see how it works in a more "sane" state.
This characterization bothers me. While I believe on ethical, moral and religious grounds that everyone should have access to good healthcare, I think people can disagree about how to make that happen without having to be characterized as hypocrites. Unless you want to suggest that we should have a theocracy in this country, then there are valid, non-hypocritical, arguments that the taxing power of the government is not the proper or best way to achieve accessable healthcare for everyone.

I agree that there are a number of ways to achieve a more fair health care system. However, my statement was specifically geared toward (and perhaps I should have made the statement more directly to those that I had in mind) those who claim to be Christians and have a sense of disdain and resentment toward the poorer people and more disadvantaged in this society and allow those sentiments to guide their feelings about how this society in general and health care in particular is run and who has access to what. These types of people seem to have a great deal of influence in our society from what I have observed and it is a big problem in my opinion.

[Drolefille]

All he's doing is giving Blagojevich ideas. Seriously. And Rod will want to implement it first, with no money.

I have to move out of Illinois ASAP

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Phasad1913

These types of people seem to have a great deal of influence in our society from what I have observed and it is a big problem in my opinion.

Not in my experience or observation, but maybe.

I think part of the issue/debate, if one is going to look at it from a Christian perspective, is whether a Christian response requires involuntary support (via taxation), voluntary support, or some combination of the two.

[RU OX Alum]

I refuse to pay christian tax.

I think one of the major problems in this country is that those who support the DNC/RNC/AP would be perfectly comfortable in a xian theocracy