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Old 01-08-2007, 04:53 PM
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Even though sprinklers are the right thing to do, how many small to medium chapters can afford a quarter of a million dollars?
Not many, if any. That's why I suggested fundraising should be done by HQ, for all its chapters, not by each chapter alone. If HQ does it, money can be solicited from the whole membership.
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Old 01-08-2007, 06:01 PM
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One good thing after you sprinkle your house, your insurance is suppose to go down over the next few years....so that is at least one positive thing.
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Old 01-08-2007, 06:15 PM
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Not many, if any. That's why I suggested fundraising should be done by HQ, for all its chapters, not by each chapter alone. If HQ does it, money can be solicited from the whole membership.
Right, but even a medium sized fraternity like us (115-120 chapters) averaging $250K per chapter is in the neighborhood of $30 million if they all have a close deadline.

Hopefully, that wouldn't happen because it could bankrupt many fraternities.

(Of course not every chapter has a house, but the figures are still staggering)
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Old 01-08-2007, 07:15 PM
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Right, but even a medium sized fraternity like us (115-120 chapters) averaging $250K per chapter is in the neighborhood of $30 million if they all have a close deadline.

Hopefully, that wouldn't happen because it could bankrupt many fraternities.

(Of course not every chapter has a house, but the figures are still staggering)
Plus, that assumes that every current house is lacking one and that may not be the case.

But I believe that's what a loan is for........
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Old 01-08-2007, 07:42 PM
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While Insurance rates would go down, I do not think it would offset the cost of construction.

Getting loans are fine, but they have to be paid off. Usually these loans are not over the normal 30 year loans for homes.

As DeltAlum said, we all want the best for our chapters and I doubt there is a National Organization is going to be able to afford to do something as a loan program as we all are working on short purse strings no matter how big or small the size is.

So, here we are between the proverbial rock and a hard place.

As far as money rasing projects by Nationals, they get money from dues and donations from Alums. If 10-15 % of Alums donate, that will never start covering projects of this magnatude.
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Old 01-09-2007, 12:58 AM
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Today's math lesson...let's say you have 60 chapters that don't have sprinklers. Some are large houses, where the costs would be in the $250K range. Others are smaller, so their costs would be closer to $150K.

If you average it out, that comes out to $200,000/chapter. Even though I was a Mass Comm major, I can do the cipherin' and realize that this is an investment of $12,000,000. There aren't many GLOs that have that kind of swag lying around @ their beck and call...

It's going to be up to us, the alumni, to do what we can to assist our chapters, whether they're our alma mater or the local chapter in town.
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Old 01-09-2007, 01:14 AM
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Today's math lesson...let's say you have 60 chapters that don't have sprinklers. Some are large houses, where the costs would be in the $250K range. Others are smaller, so their costs would be closer to $150K.

If you average it out, that comes out to $200,000/chapter. Even though I was a Mass Comm major, I can do the cipherin' and realize that this is an investment of $12,000,000. There aren't many GLOs that have that kind of swag lying around @ their beck and call...

It's going to be up to us, the alumni, to do what we can to assist our chapters, whether they're our alma mater or the local chapter in town.
Yup. I think we're saying the same thing. Even with your slightly more conservative figures, those costs probably aren't something any NIC group could deal with.
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Old 01-09-2007, 12:03 PM
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Add to that figure 10% per year...on average, that's the going rate for cost overruns. He (or she) who hesitates is lost...
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