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01-08-2007, 02:26 PM
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...and only the school is to blame really
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For the most part, but don't you think the parents have to take some of the blame for challenging school policies and potential punishment?
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01-08-2007, 04:10 PM
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For the most part, but don't you think the parents have to take some of the blame for challenging school policies and potential punishment?
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maybe, but the school backed down
I mean...okay so the girls have a sence of entitlement...probably passed down for generations, the parents think they are golden, and the school gets walked all over by the parents. Should we blame the grandparents for the way that these parents are raising these kids?
Although, in the same situation, I would have been way worse.
I still think this is "filler" this is in no way "real news" I mean seriously so much more important stuff is happening than this
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01-10-2007, 12:30 AM
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maybe, but the school backed down
I mean...okay so the girls have a sence of entitlement...probably passed down for generations, the parents think they are golden, and the school gets walked all over by the parents. Should we blame the grandparents for the way that these parents are raising these kids?
Although, in the same situation, I would have been way worse.
I still think this is "filler" this is in no way "real news" I mean seriously so much more important stuff is happening than this
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While I agree that the principal was at fault here (note I said principal not school because it sounds like some teachers tried to punish these students and the adminstration and parents did not support them) at what point do parents have to be responsible for their childs behavior?
Frankly my parents knew my friends, what I did, and where I was pretty much until I went to college. They were open about the fact that drinking underage was not acceptable in their house and there would be consequences about it. I knew my parents meant it and I respected them enough to follow their rules. Once I went to college my parents started to trust my judgement, but until then they said I was a kid and as a kid I was going to do dumb things and it was their job to keep me from dumb things that would harm me or others. So sorry if this sounds mean to some, but I do blame the parents in this sutitution quite a lot.
They should have known what their daughters were doing. It is their job as parents to know what their children are doing. I could not believe in the dallas article a parent said that if the school had told them their daughter was disrespectful they would have done something. Hate to tell that parent, but if they had raised their children right the reports of disrespect and the reports of drinking would not have occured.
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01-10-2007, 10:16 AM
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The parents in this situation knew what they were doing and by appealing punishments and the such the were partly to blame for the behavior, but the school administration (not teachers) are to blame for not controlling it.
Parents and kids will do these things if the school does not put a stop to it. The administration was letting these girls do what they want and were not supporting staff in disciplining the behavior.
Most parents can be worse than the kids (this is where the child learns it). Trust me I had to deal with two parents in high school who were constantly spreading lies about me (bc their daughters did not make the squad).
About the girls in a sorority - sad thing is there will probably a group on campus they could fit in with. This is not an isolate event. Plenty of HS girls would run with this power if they were given it.
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01-10-2007, 10:18 AM
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While I agree that the principal was at fault here (note I said principal not school because it sounds like some teachers tried to punish these students and the adminstration and parents did not support them) at what point do parents have to be responsible for their childs behavior?
Frankly my parents knew my friends, what I did, and where I was pretty much until I went to college. They were open about the fact that drinking underage was not acceptable in their house and there would be consequences about it. I knew my parents meant it and I respected them enough to follow their rules. Once I went to college my parents started to trust my judgement, but until then they said I was a kid and as a kid I was going to do dumb things and it was their job to keep me from dumb things that would harm me or others. So sorry if this sounds mean to some, but I do blame the parents in this sutitution quite a lot.
They should have known what their daughters were doing. It is their job as parents to know what their children are doing. I could not believe in the dallas article a parent said that if the school had told them their daughter was disrespectful they would have done something. Hate to tell that parent, but if they had raised their children right the reports of disrespect and the reports of drinking would not have occured.
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Wasn't the principal the parent of one of the five girls? She compounded her errors by being a bad principal on top of her sucky parenting.
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Texas has a store called Condoms To Go?
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okay so what did they do?
I just re-read the article, I found no wrong doing other than the article "they were bad" and all of you saying "they were bad and the parents/school are/is retarded" I hope they sue the school for defamation.
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okay so what did they do?
I just re-read the article, I found no wrong doing other than the article "they were bad" and all of you saying "they were bad and the parents/school are/is retarded" I hope they sue the school for defamation.
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I teach in a school district next to this one. The problems seemed to be that 5 of the girls had a "We can do anything we want" attitude. The problems reportedly included cutting classes, walking out of classes at whim, failing to turn in assigned work, talking disrespectfully to teachers, etc. The principal was the mother of one of the girls and it appears that she stopped or changed disciplinary actions taken against the girls.
Another major issue was when the girls went to a store in the area called "Condoms to Go" (There are several locations in the Dallas area.) The girls went in their cheerleading outfits and posed in sexually suggestive ways. The cheerleading sponser tried to suspend them for this (wearing the school cheerleading uniform while doing this) and the principal refused to allow the suspensions. Most schools tell all their athletes and cheerleaders this: When you are in a school uniform, you are representing us. Do not act up. Sort of like the GLOs telling our members the same when they have on letters or are at functions.
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