Politics 2008:The Caucuses and The Dem/Rep Conventions

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by mccoyred

When he wanted to take the oath on the qu'ran instead of the bible, folks were all up in arms. Now that the specific qu'ran was owned by someone that 'they' can't argue with, it is somehow okay.

I don't think the fact that it is TJ's Qu'ran changes Virgil Goode's mind. The irony is really only evident for those who know that the founding fathers were more Deist than Christian although there was quite a range of beliefs.

Goode can ramble on about tradition etc. but when John Adams and Teddy Roosevelt didn't use a Bible, you can't really fuss about a Congressman.

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

The irony is really only evident for those who know that the founding fathers were more Deist than Christian although there was quite a range of beliefs.

THANK YOU!! And folx ask me why I am a Humanist, which is an outgrowth of Deism, rather than a Christian.

So I do see the irony.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

THANK YOU!! And folx ask me why I am a Humanist, which is an outgrowth of Deism, rather than a Christian.

Random point: Humanism IS an outgrowth of Christianity if you look at its roots. In the late middle ages or early renaissance, depending on how you want to see it, Humanism was an attempt to reconcile Christianity with Classical/secular works and methods. I'm thinking Erasmus here, mainly. I'm also thinking of Humanism like "humanities" humanism, not "secular humanism," which in hindsight, I realize you might mean.

Certainly, today Humanism is closer to Deism than it is to Christianity, but I don't think it started out that way.

About Clinton/Obama, I was sort of joking about it in another thread. They do seem to complement each other.

Sorry for crashing your forum. I arrived here kind of accidentally. I was searching for a post on a similar topic.