What do people think about ethnic GLOs

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

No such thing and people who actually pay attention know this.



Because? Do you know why not or do you assume why not?



I see it as nothing more than one BGLO fraternity happened to meet whatever criteria and not get voted down. In the racial/residential segregation literature this is considered a surface level integration because the fraternity and sorority row will strategically never go beyond the "tipping point" of 1 or at the most 2 BGLO organizations. This "tipping point" will shape the extent of all interracial and interorganizational interactions--since NPHC fraternity presence on fraternity row was the metric for integration in your mind.

No, I don't know why. You're NPHC, can you tell me? Or do you even know yourself?

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

No, I don't know why. You're NPHC, can you tell me? Or do you even know yourself?

I haven't been nominated the voice for the NPHC or even black people yet. Those elections are coming up pretty soon. Stay tuned.

As for why MY chapter and other chapters that I personally know of, it has had to do with having 10 members versus the 50 to 100 members that the NPC and IFC organizations had. It's not fair to expect us to make the same 5 or so people whose schedules we can coordinate do Greek Week when other organizations have a long list of team members they could choose from and rotate.

That and some schools' events were perceived as being contrary to the NPHC orgs' practices. The only example I can think of was the Greek Week practice of wearing official pins across campus on certain days. Many NPHC chapters refused to, especially since the Greek Office tried to dictate how it should be worn so folks could see it. We'd rather wear unofficial pins or other letters.

[ejay286]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I haven't been nominated the voice for the NPHC or even black people yet. Those elections are coming up pretty soon. Stay tuned.

As for why MY chapter and other chapters that I personally know of, it has had to do with having 10 members versus the 50 to 100 members that the NPC and IFC organizations had. It's not fair to expect us to make the same 5 or so people whose schedules we can coordinate do Greek Week when other organizations have a long list of team members they could choose from and rotate.

That and some schools' events were perceived as being contrary to the NPHC orgs' practices. The only example I can think of was the Greek Week practice of wearing official pins across campus on certain days. Many NPHC chapters refused to, especially since the Greek Office tried to dictate how it should be worn so folks could see it. We'd rather wear unofficial pins or other letters.

Exactly, the biggest NPHC group on my campus is the AKAs and they attempted to participate in greek week but it was too much for them. They have about 30 members but compared to the 50 and 60+ membership of the NPC sororities they simply couldn't compete with them in some of the events. So it is very understandable why they wouldn't compete.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I haven't been nominated the voice for the NPHC or even black people yet. Those elections are coming up pretty soon. Stay tuned.

As for why MY chapter and other chapters that I personally know of, it has had to do with having 10 members versus the 50 to 100 members that the NPC and IFC organizations had. It's not fair to expect us to make the same 5 or so people whose schedules we can coordinate do Greek Week when other organizations have a long list of team members they could choose from and rotate.

That and some schools' events were perceived as being contrary to the NPHC orgs' practices. The only example I can think of was the Greek Week practice of wearing official pins across campus on certain days. Many NPHC chapters refused to, especially since the Greek Office tried to dictate how it should be worn so folks could see it. We'd rather wear unofficial pins or other letters.

I think that's a poor excuse because on my campus the numbers are not that far off.

[zchi2]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

I think that's a poor excuse because on my campus the numbers are not that far off.

The point that people are trying to make is that maybe you should ask members of NPHC on your campus before assuming that they just want to stick to their own.

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

I think that's a poor excuse because on my campus the numbers are not that far off.

Last year at greek week my sorority had 9 members. all but two were new that year and had no idea what to expect with greek week. but we still participated. not because we expected to win every event, in fact i think we only actually won one or two. we participated because it's a fun thing to do. if you think your group would have a fun time with it, they why not participate? just because you're smaller or you've never done it before is no good reason.

[DSTCHAOS]

I'm laughing because this Greek Week thing comes up all the time as if that makes or breaks anything when it comes to organizational and racial integration on college campuses. On many campuses, Greek Week is a surface level integration that allows the school and organizations to say they provide opportunities for inclusion and participation. That's it.

[DSTRen13]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I'm laughing because this Greek Week thing comes up all the time as if that makes or breaks anything when it comes to organizational and racial integration on college campuses. On many campuses, Greek Week is a surface level integration that allows the school and organizations to say they provide opportunities for inclusion and participation. That's it.

You mean that groups separately working on floats, training for tug o' war matches, or doing whatever other random activity, then for a few hours or so per activity getting together to show each other what they've all been doing totally separate from one another, does not in fact build great and meaningful unity??? I'm shocked!

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by jessicaelaine

Last year at greek week my sorority had 9 members. all but two were new that year and had no idea what to expect with greek week. but we still participated. not because we expected to win every event, in fact i think we only actually won one or two. we participated because it's a fun thing to do. if you think your group would have a fun time with it, they why not participate? just because you're smaller or you've never done it before is no good reason.

I agree.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

That and some schools' events were perceived as being contrary to the NPHC orgs' practices. The only example I can think of was the Greek Week practice of wearing official pins across campus on certain days. Many NPHC chapters refused to, especially since the Greek Office tried to dictate how it should be worn so folks could see it. We'd rather wear unofficial pins or other letters.

That's totally stupid. Everyone has different "pin attire" rules and for some people this would consist of sticking a pin on w/ your jeans, some would have had to wear dress clothing. It seems like it would have been much better to have a "Show Off Who You Are" day or something of the like and wear letters/pins/colors however each group saw fit.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by 33girl

That's totally stupid. Everyone has different "pin attire" rules and for some people this would consist of sticking a pin on w/ your jeans, some would have had to wear dress clothing. It seems like it would have been much better to have a "Show Off Who You Are" day or something of the like and wear letters/pins/colors however each group saw fit.

I agree. That's what happens when you have Greek Advisors who aren't Greek or who come from Greek systems where they were exposed to only a few organizations.