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12-29-2006, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by blueangel
If you said "Cox 2 inhibitors" can have heart damaging effects.. that would be accurate.
But, I think we are side-tracking. The question is... can we trust the FDA's allegation that cloning is a safe source of food when it has been so wrong in the past?
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Well I don't know...have you been damaged by drinking milk produced with Bovine Growth Hormone? Ever taken premarin?
Also, what would be wrong with the cloned meat exactly? Explain how it would not be safe.
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12-29-2006, 02:43 PM
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Well I don't know...have you been damaged by drinking milk produced with Bovine Growth Hormone? Ever taken premarin?
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Glad you brought that up. Recombinant Bovine Growth Hormone is another debacle of the FDA. Consumers Union, publisher of Consumer Reports has warned about potential hazards of rbGH.
It's also banned in Europe and Canada.
http://www.consumersunion.org/food/98ny699.htm
I try to drink only organic milk because there is much question over the safety of rbGH. And no, I've never taken Premarin. Your point?
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12-29-2006, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by blueangel
Glad you brought that up. Recombinant Bovine Growth Hormone is another debacle of the FDA. Consumers Union, publisher of Consumer Reports has warned about potential hazards of rbGH.
It's also banned in Europe and Canada.
http://www.consumersunion.org/food/98ny699.htm
I try to drink only organic milk because there is much question over the safety of rbGH. And no, I've never taken Premarin. Your point? |
Your concern seems to be using animals unnaturally to produce products for humans.
rBGH is not unsafe, I have a friend who worked with a dairy herd. It doesn't show up in the milk and it doesn't affect the cow other than to produce more milk.
Premarin is another example of using animals unnaturally for a product. The farms are shut down now, but mares were bred over and over and left without water to collect hormones in their urine which was then put into a drug for HRT. Not natural. FDA approved that though.
It's not exactly unknown that the FDA is cahoots with the meat industry in this country. They're in each other's pockets. My suggestion to you is to start a farm so you know exactly where your food is coming from.
EDIT: just read your link. I see your concern, however, I think the real problem is that the FDA isn't prepared to put more money into researching products. That study was also performed in 1990. If there were any problems with rBGH I believe they would have emerged by now. Do you have any other sources that might indicate that? I'm interested.
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12-29-2006, 03:30 PM
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Once again, .org = biased.
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12-29-2006, 03:57 PM
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Once again, .org = biased.
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Huh?
Maybe in some cases.
Lots of our fraternal websites end in .org.
I worry more about .gov.
Regarding cloned stuff, it may be too early to judge effects or lack thereof. That sometimes takes many years.
If our great, great grandchildren are born with three eyes...
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12-29-2006, 04:03 PM
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Huh?
Maybe in some cases.
Lots of our fraternal websites end in .org.
I worry more about .gov.
Regarding cloned stuff, it may be too early to judge effects or lack thereof. That sometimes takes many years.
If our great, great grandchildren are born with three eyes...
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But that's not something that could happen in response to eating cloned meat. It's not "cloned meat that gives you X-man powers and funky mutations" they're genetic twins.
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12-29-2006, 04:11 PM
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Hey, what do you guys think of Barbaro and his miraculous recovery?!
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12-29-2006, 04:16 PM
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Hey, what do you guys think of Barbaro and his miraculous recovery?!
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I'll tell you what Dr. Richardson thinks...
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12-29-2006, 04:17 PM
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Hey, what do you guys think of Barbaro and his miraculous recovery?!
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Hooray for ponies!
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12-29-2006, 04:14 PM
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But that's not something that could happen in response to eating cloned meat. It's not "cloned meat that gives you X-man powers and funky mutations" they're genetic twins.
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Oh.
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12-29-2006, 04:23 PM
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Huh?
Maybe in some cases.
Lots of our fraternal websites end in .org.
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And you don't think our GLO websites are biased?
If you were doing a research paper on the negative impact of Greek Life at a University, and cited www.insertyourGLO.org as your source, you might come to the conclusion that Greek Life has no negative impact. You'd probably also fail whatever class you were researching for.
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