Question: Does anyone ever see the NPHC allowing inclusion of a 10th group?

[tld221]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Sorry for the double-reply, but...

Does the NPHC require a group to have an AA focus? I believe there are lots of NIC and NPC groups that fit their membership requirements. What is stopping, say, Phi Mu from deciding one day that they are fed up with the strict NPC expansion rules, and deciding to petition the NPHC?

i dont know if this adequately answers the question:

Section 1. Affiliate Membership
Affiliate membership in NPHC shall include Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc., Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc., Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc., Zeta Phi Beta Sorority, Inc., Iota Phi Theta Fraternity, Inc., Kappa Alpha Psi Fraternity, Inc., Sigma Gamma Rho Sorority, Inc., Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity, Inc., Omega Psi Phi Fraternity, Inc. and any other affiliate organization of the NPHC as may, from time to time, be granted membership. No other organization shall have the right to sit on, or have a voice in, a local undergraduate or alumni council of NPHC, and may not be considered for membership on the local level. Affiliate membership shall also include local undergraduate and alumni councils chartered by the NPHC.

Section 8. Eligibility for Affiliate Membership. To be eligible for affiliate membership in NPHC, a fraternity or sorority which did not hold membership prior to December 1995 must meet the following requirements. The fraternity or sorority shall:

a. Be devoted to general fraternity or sorority ideals and be in conformity with the NPHC Constitution and Bylaws and the NPHC Mission Statement. (im gonna say check because there isnt much for me to believe that you dont...)
b. Have been in existence for at least fifteen (15) years and shall have been incorporated in the United States of America. (check)
c. Be national in scope and consist of a total of no less than one hundred (100) undergraduate and alumni chapters, which have a current financial membership of at least five (5) persons. Of the aforesaid 100 undergraduate and alumni chapters, a total of no less than fifty (50) must have been a part of the fraternity or sorority for at least ten (10) years. (i dont know how involved NPC membership is on an alum level, but i'd think 50 is no problem... lets say check)
d. Have constitutional provisions for a national convention, with interim authority vested in trustees, a board of directors or the officers who supervise the affairs of the fraternity or sorority. (check, right? i havent gone through Phi Mu's website so i dont know)
e. Have undergraduate chapters recognized by and be in good standing with accredited four-year colleges or universities which offer at least a baccalaureate degree. (check, obviously)

and i would wonder why after X many years, an NPC org (or any org for that matter) would hypothetically leave their governing council. as for you joining NPHC because of NPC's "strict expansion policy," i dont think that's valid. someone correct me if im wrong, but doesn't each NPHC org have their own policies re: expansion?

example: If XYZ State University wants an NPHC sorority on their campus, i dont think representatives from all 4 orgs get an expansion package together and present to the school's office. in other words, each NPHC organization will come to the school on its own terms, independent of NPHC.

am i correct? if not, let me know.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by tld221

and i would wonder why after X many years, an NPC org (or any org for that matter) would hypothetically leave their governing council. as for you joining NPHC because of NPC's "strict expansion policy," i dont think that's valid. someone correct me if im wrong, but doesn't each NPHC org have their own policies re: expansion?

example: If XYZ State University wants an NPHC sorority on their campus, i dont think representatives from all 4 orgs get an expansion package together and present to the school's office. in other words, each NPHC organization will come to the school on its own terms, independent of NPHC.

am i correct? if not, let me know.

What she means is this.

If there's a group of girls on a campus that want to form a chapter of Phi Mu, Phi Mu can't just come to the school and meet them, say "hey! You are awesome! We really dig this school! We want you to be our sisters!" and make them a Phi Mu colony.

They (they as in Phi Mu) have to wait until the campus panhellenic votes to open the campus for expansion.
They have to also make sure National Panhellenic OKs the expansion.
Then, once the campus is officially "open for expansion," any NPC sorority that doesn't have a chapter there can send a packet indicating their interest. Even if these other NPC groups KNOW that the girls on the campus want Phi Mu, if they consider it a desirable expansion opportunity, they will send a packet anyway.
The campus panhellenic looks at all the packets they've received, and picks what they think are the 3 best groups to come and present to them. And guess what? Phi Mu isn't included in the 3.
They went from having a "lock" to not even being in the race.

So to make a long story short (guess it's too late for that), if you feel like you are continually getting hosed when it comes to NPC expansion opportunities, you might not want to be in NPC anymore. And yes, I can see it happening at some point.

(The use of Phi Mu in this story is for dramatic purposes only. )

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by 33girl

What she means is this.

If there's a group of girls on a campus that want to form a chapter of Phi Mu, Phi Mu can't just come to the school and meet them, say "hey! You are awesome! We really dig this school! We want you to be our sisters!" and make them a Phi Mu colony.

They (they as in Phi Mu) have to wait until the campus panhellenic votes to open the campus for expansion.
They have to also make sure National Panhellenic OKs the expansion.
Then, once the campus is officially "open for expansion," any NPC sorority that doesn't have a chapter there can send a packet indicating their interest. Even if these other NPC groups KNOW that the girls on the campus want Phi Mu, if they consider it a desirable expansion opportunity, they will send a packet anyway.
The campus panhellenic looks at all the packets they've received, and picks what they think are the 3 best groups to come and present to them. And guess what? Phi Mu isn't included in the 3.
They went from having a "lock" to not even being in the race.

So to make a long story short (guess it's too late for that), if you feel like you are continually getting hosed when it comes to NPC expansion opportunities, you might not want to be in NPC anymore. And yes, I can see it happening at some point.

(The use of Phi Mu in this story is for dramatic purposes only. )

Thanks! This is exactly what I meant!

(and btw, expansion policies was just an example, my point was really that there already are TONS of groups out there that meet the criteria set out by NPHC, it's just that none of them have an AA focus)

[tld221]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Thanks! This is exactly what I meant!

(and btw, expansion policies was just an example, my point was really that there already are TONS of groups out there that meet the criteria set out by NPHC, it's just that none of them have an AA focus)

oh darn! thats what i get for making it more complicated than it is. LOL!

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by tld221

oh darn! thats what i get for making it more complicated than it is. LOL!

So the question remains: If Phi Mu petitions NPHC, they meet all of the criteria, no?

[L.O.C.K.]

It could be University of Maryland College Park. Their NPHC has LTA.

[tld221]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

So the question remains: If Phi Mu petitions NPHC, they meet all of the criteria, no?

if Phi Mu petitioned NPHC to become a member organization, would they make it in cause they meet the criteria?

if a young lady wanted to be a part of Phi Mu, would she make it because she met all the requirements?

i'd imagine its a case by case decision. i can only go by what the NPHC site says, i don't know how they make their decisions any more than someone else who reads their FAQs.

[iotamason]

Good luck to the sorority that will make the attempt.

[Reds6]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

So the question remains: If Phi Mu petitions NPHC, they meet all of the criteria, no?

How would they meet the mission of the NPHC? So I would say in my opinion having a AA focus is a key element to admission.
I'm not a big fan of having another orgnaization added to NPHC.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Reds6

How would they meet the mission of the NPHC? So I would say in my opinion having a AA focus is a key element to admission.

That was pretty much the question being asked.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by Reds6

How would they meet the mission of the NPHC? So I would say in my opinion having a AA focus is a key element to admission.
I'm not a big fan of having another orgnaization added to NPHC.

Okay, that is what I wanted to know. I am using Phi Mu as a totally random example, but my point was that simply meeting the numbers in the official guidelines probably isn't enough. Even though an AA focus is not mentioned in the guidelines, it is implied, I would expect.