Fraternity members indicted in student death

[EE-BO]

Tejas House is still there I think- but they have never tried to associate themselves with Greek Life. I knew one of the guys from one of my classes and he told me that it was basically a house where friends of current residents were invited to move in as guys graduated. No ritual or pledge period to speak of. A nice historic house too.

Beta Kappa (business fraternity- co-ed) used to have the house next to ADPi, but that changed hands a couple of times and is currently in Acacia's hands. I am not aware of BK having a property at present.

As for your question about other councils, I just checked and at the bottom of the Greek Life page on the UT website there are other councils listed besides the IFC (national fraternities and the list I was looking at last night) and UPC (representing the 14 national NPC-affiliated sororities). They are as follows- with portions of their mission statements in quotes to indicate who they represent,

NPHC- fraternities and sororities

"The National Pan-Hellenic Council at The University of Texas at Austin is the governing body for the nine historically African American Greek organizations. Seven of these organizations are currently affiliated with Greek Life and Education."

TAPC- Texas Asian Pan-Hellenic Council

"The Texas Asian Pan-Hellenic Council is the governing body for three Asian-interest organizations at The University of Texas at Austin." [Note- later on in their mission statement, it is indicated these are all sororities.]

UGC- United Greek Council

"The United Greek Council was created by the predominantly Latino/a based fraternal organizations at The University of Texas at Austin in the spring 2000 semester."

I must confess I was not completely aware of the extent of this- so that is new information for me.

However, I also just now looked over the list of all registered Greek organizations for all of these councils plus affiliates without council representation- and I can see off the top of my head that there are 3 GLOs I am aware of that are not registered.

That includes the organization being discussed here. I checked the discipline records online as well to ensure they are not listed because they were kicked off when this incident was first reported, but there is no record of any such action.

So it would appear this GLO was never registered with the University in any capacity. And I would note as well that none of the councils I mentioned above cover Asian-American fraternities of which there are reputedly many (2 of which I know about.)

[tallgreekalum]

Originally Posted by EE-BO

Tejas House is still there I think- but they have never tried to associate themselves with Greek Life. I knew one of the guys from one of my classes and he told me that it was basically a house where friends of current residents were invited to move in as guys graduated. No ritual or pledge period to speak of. A nice historic house too.

Beta Kappa (business fraternity- co-ed) used to have the house next to ADPi, but that changed hands a couple of times and is currently in Acacia's hands. I am not aware of BK having a property at present.

As for your question about other councils, I just checked and at the bottom of the Greek Life page on the UT website there are other councils listed besides the IFC (national fraternities and the list I was looking at last night) and UPC (representing the 14 national NPC-affiliated sororities). They are as follows- with portions of their mission statements in quotes to indicate who they represent,

NPHC- fraternities and sororities

"The National Pan-Hellenic Council at The University of Texas at Austin is the governing body for the nine historically African American Greek organizations. Seven of these organizations are currently affiliated with Greek Life and Education."

TAPC- Texas Asian Pan-Hellenic Council

"The Texas Asian Pan-Hellenic Council is the governing body for three Asian-interest organizations at The University of Texas at Austin." [Note- later on in their mission statement, it is indicated these are all sororities.]

UGC- United Greek Council

"The United Greek Council was created by the predominantly Latino/a based fraternal organizations at The University of Texas at Austin in the spring 2000 semester."

I must confess I was not completely aware of the extent of this- so that is new information for me.

However, I also just now looked over the list of all registered Greek organizations for all of these councils plus affiliates without council representation- and I can see off the top of my head that there are 3 GLOs I am aware of that are not registered.

That includes the organization being discussed here. I checked the discipline records online as well to ensure they are not listed because they were kicked off when this incident was first reported, but there is no record of any such action.

So it would appear this GLO was never registered with the University in any capacity. And I would note as well that none of the councils I mentioned above cover Asian-American fraternities of which there are reputedly many (2 of which I know about.)

Thanks. I have a pretty good list of national fraternities. If you tell me the names of the ones not registered, I could tell you if they are on it.

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by PoohsHoneyBee

the news reported that the rituals were confiscated and will be used as evidence

whoever gave them up should be stripped of membership

[Symbal]

I doubt they 'gave them up'. When they have what they think is evidence and the legal standing to seize it, 'giving it up' doesn't happen. They just take.

Makes me wonder if the ritual they use could possibly be used as evidence to support the violent hazing. I wouldn't know either way.

[Tom Earp]

Either way, whether they are a registered Oganization or a psuedo group using Greek Letters, this throws a bad light on everyone no matter who it is.

People have blinders when it comes to Greeks. They have Greek Letters and screw up, than all Greeks must do the same no matter what.

[Elephant Walk]

Lambda Phi Epsilon = Theta Nu Xi?

Basically the same principle.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Either way, whether they are a registered Oganization or a psuedo group using Greek Letters, this throws a bad light on everyone no matter who it is.

People have blinders when it comes to Greeks. They have Greek Letters and screw up, than all Greeks must do the same no matter what.

Actually no one has given much of any thought about the event around here until the indictment information was released.

[Texas Beta]

I think the title of "number one party school" at UT created more backlash towards GLO's then this incident.

[EE-BO]

That is a fair point. I know for a fact the University administration is pretty upset at this dubious honor (and obviously they would be.)

The heavy crack-down in West Campus on any ordinance violations- even if not reported- earlier this year surely stemmed from that as well.

Yet another media-driven situation to inconvenience our lives.

Tallgreekalum- if you want names, let's take it to PM if we may. No big secrets or anything, but I figure if a GLO does not advertise itself and is leading a quiet existence, then it is not my place to broadcast it on the internet.

[LOVEinZTA]

http://www.dailytexanonline.com/medi...exanonline.com

The article was published in September. I live in west campus - there are definitely still plenty of builds, bands, and black tarps.

"Michelle DeCrane, spokeswoman for the Austin Fire Department, said the new plan does not single out fraternities."
BULL!

[Texas Beta]

i am typing with the widows keyboard so ignore any mistakes

i have attended two west campus neighborhood commitee meetings, which is composed of 95% business owners. nothing has been said on behalf of greeks. even when we try to bring up the subject they quickly change subect. hopefully with more greek involvement we can get more things repeled, such as the required permit for 49 people or more.

Its al bullshit.

[Tom Earp]

So, that means bang the drum slowly?

They forget the amount of UT/Social Greek Money that comes into the school and businesses.

Now, if the rules are faily run for not only Greeks, but anyother social gatherings of a personel nature that would be fine.

There has to be some rules in place when some get out of hand, but with a little restraint, I am sure it can be worked out.

Now if I read right, West Campus is mostly Greeks, true?

[LOVEinZTA]

West campus is where 98% of the Greek Houses are located, and is about 99% students, not all of whom are Greek, obviously, though a LOT of Greek students live in West Campus, in house or in apartments. Here's the greek house map:

http://deanofstudents.utexas.edu/gle...LEhousemap.pdf

And the laws aren't exactly 'fair' and do have the obvious aim of affecting Greeks more then anyone else - I remember a story about a meeting that was held to inform fraternities of the new regulations and the whole registering 'gatherings' with 50+ people thing. One guy apparently asked if he needed to register weekly chapter dinners to which he was told that "obviously those sorts of things don't count." rediculous.

[L.O.C.K.]

LPhiE isn't the only national Asian American Fraternity. They are one of two that is a part of the NIC, which reinforces them being National, but that's about it.

They have roughly 46 chapters across the country. At many schools, they are not recognized by the university which leads to real problems for organizations like mine that are recognized. (ie, they dirty rush and it hurts us bad b/c the university doesn't do anything)

LPhiE has had a bunch of deaths.

One kid died in a fight between two fraternities at SJSU in 2003.

Another died coming back from a fraternity event in a car crash.

Another was killed during a pledge event in 2005. He was trying to charter LPhiE at his university, but the death obviously ended hopes of the charter.

[jaynu]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

whoever gave them up should be stripped of membership

An active house was herassed by authority for over a year.... what do you expect for them to do in that predicament? If anything, you have to think about the people that gave themselves up, perhaps hoping for a less severe punishment.