APO - AFW?

[naraht]

The letters in the Latin Alphabet that Symbol takes to the Greek Alphabet in order are
ABGDEZHQIKLMNXOPRSTUFCYW

Of these the ones that are the worst fit are Q for Theta, Y for Phi and W for Omega, they are done from shape (of either Cap or lower case) rather than anything relating to sound. But give that the letters they don't use are J & V, I'm not sure either would make a better substitute.

[naraht]

APO - most common
APhiO - significant minority, mostly in Region V, but some elsewhere
APhiQ or AyPhiQue - almost entirely at chapters at the Historically Black schools.

[Starofsorrow]

I might start using APhiO, since my school has two APO orgs, one is a Phi (us), and the other is Psi. I'm not too sure how to differnate between the two other than the Phi/Psi. I'm actually trying to recruit them for APO, and they mentioned that they could say "I belong to TWO APOs!!!".

(APsiO is the theatre honor frat at school...not sure if it's national honor or local honor.)

[Senusret I]

It's national, I've heard of it before.

[naraht]

Most of the time, I haven't run into any problems. The universities generally don't care since they tend to use full names. I've run into a few people who do belong to both, but I guess each has their own personal system.

Alpha Psi Omega is National and has used the name Alpha Psi Omega for about 4 months longer than we have been using Alpha Phi Omega (see www.alphapsiomega.org)

At least we haven't had to deal much with confusion with Alpha Pi Omega, which is a American Indian ethnic Sorority with chapters with a few schools in North Carolina.

[Starofsorrow]

oooh, that's interesting.

I wouldn't think there would be a problem of being part of botha honor frat, and a service frat. They're trying to recruit me for their APO, too. It does get confusing when we have a club meeting, since I mention APO, and they mention APO, and others assume we're in the same APOs, but we have to explain that we're actually in different frats. We even confuse each other sometimes! =)

[naraht]

Although Alpha Phi Omega doesn't have any limitations on cross-membership, I do periodically see it caveatted with "the other group may have a problem". I've just never see any such group.

I know the NPC (hist White Sororities) have strict and exacting rules on internal cross-membership and pretty sure that NIC (HWF) and NPHC (HBF&S) have them as well. Theoretically you could cross groups (say AKA sorority in the NPHC and Delta Delta Delta in the NPC, but I'd want to know the rules in exacting detail first.)

I think there are some cross-membership limitations in the Music Professional/Honoraries like Delta Omicron, but I'm not sure.

But the only Greek Letter Organizations that get grouped with APO normally are Gamma Sigma Sigma, Omega Phi Alpha and Intercollegiate Knights (all currently much smaller) and I know of a woman who is both an APO brother and a GSS Sister (and in Circle K )

Now I do know of chapters that have unwritten rules regarding pledging both Alpha Phi Omega and a Social Fraternity/Sorority in the same semester, but that strikes me as efforts to save people's sanity, not a competition with the Social.

[Starofsorrow]

Well, I would understand NOT pledging to two in the same semester, but the friends I were talking about already are members. They just pledged this past semester, and had their initation ceremonies as brothers.

I talked to the APsiO friend, and he is currently unaware of any rules that are in their consitution about cross-membership. I would assume it's largely up to each chapter, and as a result, not illegal at my school.

[emb021]

Originally Posted by naraht

Although Alpha Phi Omega doesn't have any limitations on cross-membership, I do periodically see it caveatted with "the other group may have a problem". I've just never see any such group.

Most rules regarding limits of 'cross-membership' are usually of the form:

* you may only join ONE social/general GLO.
* you may only join ONE type of professional/honorary GLO. (ie, you can only join one Business GLO, etc)

Because APO is not part of either category, such rules don't affect us. While we are a service GLO, none of the service GLOs have any rules that I am aware of about being members of one another. (that is, I am not aware of any rule by GSS that would prevent a GSS member from joining APO).

[LUC Kappa]

I know the NPC (hist White Sororities) have strict and exacting rules on internal cross-membership and pretty sure that NIC (HWF) and NPHC (HBF&S) have them as well. Theoretically you could cross groups (say AKA sorority in the NPHC and Delta Delta Delta in the NPC, but I'd want to know the rules in exacting detail first.)

I really don't think you can do that. You should only have 1) social 1) academic 1) like religon, service, ect
if your really true to picking out an organization to you and sticking to it i dont think you need to go beyond this

[OrigamiTulip]

Originally Posted by naraht

I know of a woman who is both an APO brother and a GSS Sister

So do I, lol.

[emb021]

Originally Posted by naraht

APO - most common
APhiO - significant minority, mostly in Region V, but some elsewhere
APhiQ or AyPhiQue - almost entirely at chapters at the Historically Black schools.

Please note that Randy is referring to written references to APO.

For instance, in my area, we usually say "APhiO", while in other parts of the country people say "A-P-O".

I usually write APO, and say APhiO.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by emb021

Please note that Randy is referring to written references to APO.

For instance, in my area, we usually say "APhiO", while in other parts of the country people say "A-P-O".

I usually write APO, and say APhiO.

I stand corrected, I didn't realize that APhiO was used in Florida that much.

And I have seen APhiO used in writing quite a bit. I pledged in Region V and used APhiO, spent enough time on Region III staff to say APO instead and then got involved with the issues with the HBCUs enough to have AyPhiQue come out of my mouth. I'm Tri-lingual.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by naraht

The letters in the Latin Alphabet that Symbol takes to the Greek Alphabet in order are
ABGDEZHQIKLMNXOPRSTUFCYW

Of these the ones that are the worst fit are Q for Theta, Y for Phi and W for Omega

You mean, Y for Psi?

With that correction in mind, I agree 100%.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

You mean, Y for Psi?

With that correction in mind, I agree 100%.

Yes, you are right...

Still I'm not sure any other matchup would have been superior.