TKE at U of Alabama?

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Sorry that You feel this way.


Yes, I have been a Member of the Greek Community for 41 years.

Am I proud of that, of course I am.

Have I been working with Greek Members, yes I have.

Now I just wonder what your problem is except a small mind and Area of knowledge?

Just a suggestin, grow up and smell the roses instead of the rear of a dandiolon.

No.

[Kevin]

Good luck to them.

[robertearlkeen]

It is a well known fact that Old Row fraternities dominate the South. And it is a very big deal in Tuscaloosa as it is in Auburn. And TKE sucks at Auburn also. Auburn Old Row: KA, SN, PiKA, SAE, Phi Delt. SX and Sig Ep are not Old Row even though they believe that they are.

[Elephant Walk]

Agreed. It would be disasterous for TKE to colonize there. With it's reputation among Southern frat life, it would most likely be a failure.

[shinerbock]

I think its actually a much bigger deal in UA than at AU. I think for us its more symbolic. It still signifies the same things, but the power structure is a lot different in Tuscaloosa. Based on that I would think that TKE's struggles at Auburn would be multiplied at Bama.

[AnchorAlumna]

Well, nobody knows anything.

[CrusaderTKE]

I dont get this whole old south fraternity life that everyone is talking about each TKE chapter is different and if they are at UA wouldnt that be all southern men anyways. I am from the north but all the TKE chapters down south are doing a lot better than the chapters in the north. All the old south Frats like SAE really dont do well anywhere

[shinerbock]

I have no idea what you're talking about. TKE can do whatever they want. All we're saying is that they'll probably have a rough go of it.

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by CrusaderTKE

I dont get this whole old south fraternity life that everyone is talking about each TKE chapter is different and if they are at UA wouldnt that be all southern men anyways. I am from the north but all the TKE chapters down south are doing a lot better than the chapters in the north. All the old south Frats like SAE really dont do well anywhere

Ouch. I don't even want to think what a TKE northern chapter is like.

We're simply stating it's going to be tough. The combination of TKE's reputation in the south and Alabama's old row will hurt TKE's chances of becoming an established fraternity.

[tallgreekalum]

Alpha Delt was once a power in the south(UVA, Alabama, etc.), but the recent unpleasantness set us back a bit. We have recently begun a return, finding that the changing demographics of many southern schools has lead to a larger number of northern men attending the top schools in the south and not being courted by the traditional "old row" fraternities, to use the term here. We have also had some success approaching locals who have split from their nationals over some of the recent changes coming from national organizations(dry house, abolition of pledging, etc.). Our effort at W&L was not successful, but we have recently come on to Duke, working on a group at Vandy, and starting recruitment at Chapel Hill in the spring.

[shinerbock]

Well, as much as I hate the fact that northerners are coming to southern universities, you have a point. TKE originally got pretty good numbers at Auburn because of this. They bid a lot of people, and quickly got their numbers up. However, they catered to the non-old row types as you referred to, and thus have a poor reputation among greeks.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Well, as much as I hate the fact that northerners are coming to southern universities, you have a point. TKE originally got pretty good numbers at Auburn because of this. They bid a lot of people, and quickly got their numbers up. However, they catered to the non-old row types as you referred to, and thus have a poor reputation among greeks.

I am totally wonder still about the OLD Geeks and the Newer Greeks?

There is one life on Campus, Greeks.

Fight each other and see who loses. Da, We do. I may be wrong, but just stay tuned.

For all who feel they are immune to getting taken off of campus, just keep it up and see.

Alums may give a lot of money, but if they are embaresed with the Chapter, I am sure they would not mind cleaning house from the scum or dirt bags who defile Their/Your Fraterity.

It seems that some do not get out of thier littl campus and chapter area to see what is out in the big bad world of real life.

Self importance at times is underwhelming.

I would much rather be a live member of My Chapter looking from the inside out compared to those who have no chapter looking from the outside in.

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

I am totally wonder still about the OLD Geeks and the Newer Greeks?

There is one life on Campus, Greeks.

Fight each other and see who loses. Da, We do. I may be wrong, but just stay tuned.

No one is fighting each other, we are simply different. We take each others sides in everything. There is a difference between old row and new row. There is no "old" or "new" row on my campus, but there IS a noticeable difference between fraternities founded before say 1910 and fraternities founded after.

For all who feel they are immune to getting taken off of campus, just keep it up and see.
Alums may give a lot of money, but if they are embaresed with the Chapter, I am sure they would not mind cleaning house from the scum or dirt bags who defile Their/Your Fraterity.

I wonder if most alumns are embarrassed with your spelling?
However, we do not allow "scum or dirtbags" in, and if we do make the mistake they are kicked out early in pledging (or for fun, right after hellweek). We clean our own house without need from alumns, because we are responsible.

It seems that some do not get out of thier littl campus and chapter area to see what is out in the big bad world of real life.

Self importance at times is underwhelming.

I would much rather be a live member of My Chapter looking from the inside out compared to those who have no chapter looking from the outside in.

What does getting out in the real world have anything to do with chapter responsibility? Furthermore, who are you to say we haven't? Learn to spell and get back to me.

[tallgreekalum]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Well, as much as I hate the fact that northerners are coming to southern universities, you have a point. TKE originally got pretty good numbers at Auburn because of this. They bid a lot of people, and quickly got their numbers up. However, they catered to the non-old row types as you referred to, and thus have a poor reputation among greeks.

We have been attracting the same suburban nyc/penn/dc/boston prep boy/lacrosse playing types we do at most chapters, with a good number of their southern brethren. We know our market, and we do alright in it. We do not equate size with quality. It may take a while, but we will be a repected chapter at any campus we colonize. As more and more fraternities push tougher regulations(look at Kappa Sig at Ole Miss, Phi Delt at Sewanee and Virginia), you may see more and more old line chapters re-evaluate their relationship with their nationals. When they do, Alpha Delt will be there
PS Hey, Shinerbock, thanks for reminding me of my many visits to Austin every time I read your name

[shinerbock]

I'm pretty unfamiliar with Alpha Delt, so I can't really comment.