The Seinfeld Dude.... - Page 3

shinerbock · #31 11-22-2006, 07:36 PM

DSTS, I'll be happy to go back to my business when people stop bringing us into their business (not talking about you, necc). But its not like black people are simply saying "alright, lets face this issue among ourselves." Anytime a racial issue comes up, like an incident such as this, it gets thrown in America's face by black leaders and in no small part, by the media. So while you may not be doing it, plenty of other people in the black community are doing it.

So basically, I really don't care what Richards did. He doesn't really represent anyone or influence anyone, hopefully. While this would normally mean I'd drop it, I unfortunately don't have the ability to do that when I look at threads and see people saying things like "this just shows how much racism still exists..." Thats right, it does, but it seems we're only interested in talking/complaining about it (on this site at least) when its white on black.

DSTCHAOS · #32 11-23-2006, 01:33 AM

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it gets thrown in America's face by black leaders and in no small part, by the media.

This doesn't mean they really want your opinions or validation.

BTW, when will people stop using "black leaders?" I'm still waiting for a roster of the "white leaders."

ladygreek · #33 11-23-2006, 02:45 AM

Did anyone see his interview on David Letterman the other night? If so, your thoughts?

Senusret I · #34 11-23-2006, 02:59 AM

I saw it. It was pretty sad. But not really.

First of all, he called us "Afro-Americans" which the crowd laughed at. I mean, it was kinda of funny, but not guffaw funny. Then Jerry told the crowd "Stop laughing. It's not funny." Which I found REALLY kinda..... I dunno.... condescending. Because CLEARLY these people stood in line to be entertained, not to get the "exclusive" apology from Kramer.

Anyway.... do I still believe that he is racist, even after the apology? Yes, I do.

He's sorry he got caught, in my opinion. And Jerry is his friend and all, and I support loyalty, most def. But the fact that Season 7 of Seinfeld came out this week..... it's just all too fishy. Jerry don't want nobody messing with his money, I'm sure.

KAPPAtivating · #35 11-23-2006, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

DSTS, I'll be happy to go back to my business when people stop bringing us into their business (not talking about you, necc). But its not like black people are simply saying "alright, lets face this issue among ourselves." Anytime a racial issue comes up, like an incident such as this, it gets thrown in America's face by black leaders and in no small part, by the media. So while you may not be doing it, plenty of other people in the black community are doing it.

So basically, I really don't care what Richards did. He doesn't really represent anyone or influence anyone, hopefully. While this would normally mean I'd drop it, I unfortunately don't have the ability to do that when I look at threads and see people saying things like "this just shows how much racism still exists..." Thats right, it does, but it seems we're only interested in talking/complaining about it (on this site at least) when its white on black.

I really don't have a dog in this fight, but in regards to ^^^I reall feel like you are one post away from saying, "your people, or you all". I feel like Richards career is washed up. Hell, it was washed up before this. He is just some type-cast actor who tried to make some money on the side. If as a comedian, you cannot handle hecklers, then you are indeed not a comedian. Just like if I could not take an occasional heckle from a student, I would be a bad educator. That does not give me the right to personal degrade anyone regardless of what I think of them in my head. I believe the man is a racist...don't even apologize in my opinion because you are not sorry for the thought, but for the repercussion of the thought.

DSTCHAOS · #36 11-23-2006, 11:32 AM

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I really don't have a dog in this fight, but in regards to ^^^I reall feel like you are one post away from saying, "your people, or you all". I feel like Richards career is washed up. Hell, it was washed up before this. He is just some type-cast actor who tried to make some money on the side. If as a comedian, you cannot handle hecklers, then you are indeed not a comedian. Just like if I could not take an occasional heckle from a student, I would be a bad educator. That does not give me the right to personal degrade anyone regardless of what I think of them in my head. I believe the man is a racist...don't even apologize in my opinion because you are not sorry for the thought, but for the repercussion of the thought.

It reads like you do.

shinerbock · #37 11-23-2006, 11:55 AM

DSTS, I don't care if they want my validation or not, if you throw it out into the public arena, you don't get to decide who gets to talk about it. The reason I say black leaders is because thats generally what they're called. I would say I'd call them whatever term you prefer, but I frankly don't care what one person chooses to get huffy about.

Also, if I were to say "you people" I wouldn't be referring to black people, I'd be referring to anyone who decides that one guy's demeaning rant should now be the central focus of everything in America. Maybe GreekChat should just invent a new feature which locks white republican guys out of threads where the topic is bitching about white folks. That might help everyone.

DSTCHAOS · #38 11-23-2006, 02:29 PM

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DSTS, I don't care if they want my validation or not

It's not about caring if they want it. Like I said, some white people just insert themselves because they automatically assume their opinion and validation are needed. Public arena or not.

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I would say I'd call them whatever term you prefer,

I never asked you for that so it's fantabulous that you don't care. Once again, what you say or do won't add any more or less credibility to my stance.

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Maybe GreekChat should just invent a new feature which locks white republican guys out of threads where the topic is bitching about white folks. That might help everyone.

This is a dumb attempt at whatever you were attempting. Certainly you don't propose that white republicans (who are males) would all agree with you on everything you've ever typed about race on GC. But if the only thing you've gotten from such discussions is "bitching about white folks" then I suggest that we're back to where I started with you: We don't need you to understand or to validate.

Rudey · #39 11-23-2006, 06:20 PM

I'm not sure what Jews had to do with this, but it's great that some of you brought it up in this thread and in the one in the Entertainment forum. Really, no biases of any sort is evident in those comments.

And I'm sure his racist comments justified comments such as "Cracker" and "White boy" as well.

Look at this Jewish girl from Uganda...she is racist against blacks.

Look at these Jewish girls from India...they are racist against blacks.

It would be great if for once you brought up Hispanics or Chinese people out of nowhere in a thread about racism.

-Rudey

thesweetestone · #40 11-23-2006, 07:22 PM

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LOL. Americans are cute.

What the Hell does that mean?
Your opinion is not the only one that matters on this subject. You have managed to quote almost everybody in this thread. We don't need your personal commentary on each and everybody's statements. Everybody that reads these posts are capable of coming up with their on point of view without your help.

shinerbock · #41 11-23-2006, 09:46 PM

DSTS, keep whining, I'll leave you to it.

AKA_Monet · #42 11-24-2006, 06:31 PM

A Fox News Channel Exclusive:

Comedian Paul Mooney's thougths about Michael Richards (Kramer) on Fox Show with Greta...

AKA_Monet · #43 11-24-2006, 06:44 PM

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[B]No one gives a damn about Richards' career really. He's a nobody to a large percentage of Americans. This story is all over the news because he's a semi-celebrity attached to a popular show with a popular name. Most importantly, this is one of many constant reminders that race is still salient in this country in some form or another. Some of us don't need such reminders but more often than not many white people do.

Just wanted to point this comment out. It makes complete sense...

And Shinerbock: Top-most white leaders are President George H.W. Bush and President George W. Bush. Vice-President Dick Cheney. Prime Minister Tony Blair. Moreover, you have the E.U. president and U.N. National Security Council conseuil-general...

Last I looked no one admitted to an another ethnic group and race...

PhrozenGod01 · #44 11-24-2006, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

A Fox News Channel Exclusive:

Comedian Paul Mooney's thougths about Michael Richards (Kramer) on Fox Show with Greta...

Freakin hilarious!!! Paul Mooney is really insightful. He said what I was thinking the whole time.

shinerbock · #45 11-24-2006, 07:10 PM

AKA, George W Bush doesn't claim to be a leader of white people. He's an American leader, period. Meanwhile, "black leaders" represent only the interests of black people, for the most part.