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11-23-2006, 07:22 PM
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LOL. Americans are cute.
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What the Hell does that mean?
Your opinion is not the only one that matters on this subject. You have managed to quote almost everybody in this thread. We don't need your personal commentary on each and everybody's statements. Everybody that reads these posts are capable of coming up with their on point of view without your help. 
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11-23-2006, 09:46 PM
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DSTS, keep whining, I'll leave you to it.
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11-24-2006, 06:31 PM
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11-24-2006, 06:49 PM
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Freakin hilarious!!! Paul Mooney is really insightful. He said what I was thinking the whole time.
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11-24-2006, 07:10 PM
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AKA, George W Bush doesn't claim to be a leader of white people. He's an American leader, period. Meanwhile, "black leaders" represent only the interests of black people, for the most part.
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11-24-2006, 07:19 PM
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AKA, George W Bush doesn't claim to be a leader of white people. He's an American leader, period. Meanwhile, "black leaders" represent only the interests of black people, for the most part.
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Really? And why not? I fail to observe that there was such a distinction...
So what did MLK do, again?
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11-24-2006, 10:46 PM
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AKA, George W Bush doesn't claim to be a leader of white people. He's an American leader, period. Meanwhile, "black leaders" represent only the interests of black people, for the most part.
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George W. Bush an American Leader...please...now that is hilarious! He does good to lead himself!
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11-25-2006, 02:22 PM
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Your opinion is not the only one that matters on this subject.
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Sure it is.
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DSTS, keep whining, I'll leave you to it.
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I have nothing to whine about. 
It's you who's doing the "crucified white man" routine.
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11-28-2006, 04:54 PM
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A Different View
I do not believe that Michael Richards is racist. I believe he is someone with an anger problem and used words he knew would cut the deepest against someone he at which he wanted to get back. I have seen and experienced racism at its finest. This too me wasn't racism, but rather ignorance.
I also don't see where not buying the 7th season of Seinfeld DVD has anything to do with this. Jesse is overreaching, imo.
I believe it has gotten too much press and hype and I do believe that Richards is truly sorry.
I didn't sense that the laughter on Letterman had anything to do with him using Afro American. imo it was because he looked like he was in character and about to do a Kramerism. The audience wasn't sure if this was serious or a joke--and I didn't either until Jerry said it isn't funny.
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11-28-2006, 05:56 PM
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I do not believe that Michael Richards is racist. I believe he is someone with an anger problem and used words he knew would cut the deepest against someone he at which he wanted to get back. I have seen and experienced racism at its finest. This too me wasn't racism, but rather ignorance.
I also don't see where not buying the 7th season of Seinfeld DVD has anything to do with this. Jesse is overreaching, imo.
I believe it has gotten too much press and hype and I do believe that Richards is truly sorry.
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I agree.
I also think it's dumb for there to be litigation over this. There are lessons to learn from this, whether it be about anger management or race. What doesn't need to be learned/reminded is that people are opportunists who will claim injury as a result of words just for the hell of it. The man is seeking resolution for whatever reasons and suing him does nothing but reinforce a litigous society.
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11-28-2006, 06:06 PM
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I think people throw around the word "ignorant" too much. It wasn't an ignorant thing to say, it was a hateful and heat of the moment thing to say. Obviously the content was racial, but I'm not sold on him being a racist either. I'm sure there are people who in a heated argument with their gay best friend may go "you faggot!" but I don't think that makes them a homophobe, it just means they were going for the lowest possible blow at the time.
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11-28-2006, 07:03 PM
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I think people throw around the word "ignorant" too much. It wasn't an ignorant thing to say, it was a hateful and heat of the moment thing to say.
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You just can't agree with something, can you? For some reason you always need to put a point of disagreement in there. LOL
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11-29-2006, 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by shinerbock
I'm sure there are people who in a heated argument with their gay best friend may go "you faggot!" but I don't think that makes them a homophobe, it just means they were going for the lowest possible blow at the time.
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Even if someone would do this, would (s)he also say "Back in the day we'd have had you strung to a post and lit fire to your ass!"?
He made the lynching comment, followed by "you can talk, you're brave now motherf***er" and "That's what happens when you interrupt the White man". He was clearly implying that Blacks have stepped out of their place now that violence is no longer an accepted means of keeping them in it. I don't understand how people can seperate this from racism. Furthermore, it isn't as if the comment toward him was vile enough to evoke the lowest possible blow, the man just said he wasn't funny. And regardless, I personally don't think "I was angry" negates everything someone says in anger. Men who beat their wives do so in anger, that doesn't seperate the problem of violence against women from sexism.
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11-29-2006, 03:37 AM
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Men who beat their wives do so in anger, that doesn't seperate the problem of violence against women from sexism.
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Men who beat their wives do so as a power trip... It has nothing to do with anger, which in psychological terms means being upset about an unfavorable condition. It has to do with resentment, that which is beyond anger, and rage, uncontrollable anger--like being Anakin coverted to the Dark Side of the Force...
And that is how MANY African Americans think of what racism is. It is mostly about domination and power, it is energy is perpetuated by resentment and rage.
I bet the Kramer dude was shaking after he wailed on his tirade and rant...
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11-29-2006, 08:54 AM
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And I agree, if he is racist (who really cares anymore, I don't think it changes much), the lynching comments are the indicator. However, I don't know, maybe its just because I've been around racists, his rant just doesn't come off as what a racist would say. I still think its a combination of rage, over the top comedy, and an effort strike the core of the people who were insulting him. Of course, he could just be racist, i just have doubts.
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