The Hobbit - Peter Jackson taken off project

Drolefille · #1 11-22-2006, 10:26 AM

To my recollection no. Or at least no one who would look the same. I don't remember if the armies were of any "nation" that we would know or recognize the leader. But even if, for example, Rohan was there, Theoden would be a kid if he was even alive.
(And I could see them playing with the timeline to have you "meet" those characters... or maybe Sam's old Gaffer or something)

MysticCat · #2 11-22-2006, 10:40 AM

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Question: are there any other characters from LOTR other than the obvious hobbits, Gandalf and Elrond in The Hobbit?

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To my recollection no. Or at least no one who would look the same.

The obvious that you note -- Bilbo -- is in both. He is the title character, but as Drolefille suggests, he was 51 in The Hobbit, 60 years younger than we see him on his "eleventy-first" (111th) birthday at the beginning of LOTR.

The only other "repeat" characters that I can think of are some of the dwarves, such as Gloin (Gimli's father) who are present at Elrond's Council in the book, but aren't really brought out in the movie. Also there are the Sackville-Bagginses, but again they don't have much of a presence in the movie. And Gwahir, the eagle, is in both, but he's CGI.

Frodo, of course, had not yet been born when The Hobbit takes place.

BetteDavisEyes · #3 11-22-2006, 10:51 AM

It's been a while since I've read The Hobbit but was Saruman in it? I know Gandalf & Elrond were but I honestly can't recall if Saruman was.

AlexMack · #4 11-22-2006, 10:57 AM

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It's been a while since I've read The Hobbit but was Saruman in it? I know Gandalf & Elrond were but I honestly can't recall if Saruman was.

Nope. See above for the repeat characters. I have to say I like LOTR a lot better than The Hobbit. Oh but that chainmail shirt Bilbo gives Frodo? That came from The Hobbit.
Great, now I have The Ballad of Bilbo Baggins stuck in my head.

MysticCat · #5 11-22-2006, 11:14 AM

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Nope. See above for the repeat characters.

Sauron, on the other hand, is referred to but not seen in The Hobbit. (Of course, he is never really seen in LOTR either.)

He is "The Necromancer" who has taken up in Dol Gildur in the southern part of Mirkwood. The elves at first do not realize who he is.

Drolefille · #6 11-22-2006, 11:21 AM

He's the whole reason that "Mirkwood" once wonderful and like Lothlorien is now more of a "murk"-wood, dark and foreboding. (Isn't Legolas the prince of Mirkwood? Do we meet his father?)

MysticCat · #7 11-22-2006, 11:46 AM

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(Isn't Legolas the prince of Mirkwood? Do we meet his father?)

Yes. His father was Thranduil, who in The Hobbit is referred to as "the Elvenking."

Okay, I think I'm about to decide that it's time once again to re-read The Silmarillion, then The Hobbit, the LOTR (for about the hundredth time).