The Seinfeld Dude....

[southernelle25]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I used to like Seinfeld but I think it is significant that popular shows such as those are marketed as mainstream nonracialized comedies that anyone can relate to and laugh at.

But this one wasn't nonracialized, because it was marketed as Jewish comedy. I don't think they thought anyone could relate; it just so happened that many people did.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by southernelle25

But this one wasn't nonracialized, because it was marketed as Jewish comedy.

Oh that's right--the particular TYPE of comedy is often attributed to Jewish people.

[PhrozenGod01]

I can't agree that Seinfeld was a comdey for any certain race. My father and brother loved that show and got me into watching the reruns after the season finale. Sure, there could have been more diversity on the show, but it was better than Friends in that department. But really, we watched the show because the writing was really good for the actors cast.

Jerry Seinfeld many other "lovable" media icons could be the biggest jerks out there, but because they love making money off their profession, they try their best to hide it. So Richards' tirade doesn't shock me as much as dissapoint me. He was a has-been who could have went out as an all-star but left a bum. Even if he has lots of money, he lost my respect.

[AKA_Monet]

1. Should we be shocked by some old guy's rantings?
2. If we are shocked, then did WE, those who identify with being Afrikans in Amerikkklan really think we were accepted into mainstream society?
3. Would he have said that chit in front of the Crips and the Bloods?
4. What would Katt Williams say? Or Mike Epps? Rising careers of comedians who say that chit all the time...
5. Would homie dare show his face up in Def Comedy Jam?
6. Would he do it in front of the King's of Comedy?
7. Does dude have delusions?
8. I am really not trying to do another MD Consult service here...

[PhrozenGod01]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

1. Should we be shocked by some old guy's rantings?
2. If we are shocked, then did WE, those who identify with being Afrikans in Amerikkklan really think we were accepted into mainstream society?
3. Would he have said that chit in front of the Crips and the Bloods?
4. What would Katt Stevens say? Or Mike Epps? Rising careers of comedians who say that chit all the time...
5. Would homie dare show his face up in Def Comedy Jam?
6. Would he do it in front of the King's of Comedy?
7. Does dude have delusions?
8. I am really not trying to do another MD Consult service here...

Everyone you mentioned (well besides most crips and bloods I guess) are much better comedians than Michael Richards. I'm more shocked that you would compare him to the Kings of Comedy than by his actual rant. The guy is a hack in the industry and proved it. The Apollo Amateur Night rejects have more class than him. He didn't write his own character in Seinfeld, so he could also be dumber than rocks too.

On a semi-tangent, I was trying to think about what he could do to redeem himself somehow. He's not really, really old or anything. Maybe he should try to get on Comicview or something like that. I know they wouldn't want him on, but millions of people would tune in to see what happens when he takes the stage. If he could handle it, then I'd take back my criticism of his composure only. His character is still looking pretty bad right now.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by PhrozenGod01

Everyone you mentioned (well besides most crips and bloods I guess) are much better comedians than Michael Richards. I'm more shocked that you would compare him to the Kings of Comedy than by his actual rant. The guy is a hack in the industry and proved it. The Apollo Amateur Night rejects have more class than him. He didn't write his own character in Seinfeld, so he could also be dumber than rocks too.

On a semi-tangent, I was trying to think about what he could do to redeem himself somehow. He's not really, really old or anything. Maybe he should try to get on Comicview or something like that. I know they wouldn't want him on, but millions of people would tune in to see what happens when he takes the stage. If he could handle it, then I'd take back my criticism of his composure only. His character is still looking pretty bad right now.

I fail to see how I compared this luser to the "King's of Comedy"... I think you have read way too much into what I exactly stated, which clearly was, would homeboy say that same chit in front of them...

Is homey a fairly decent stand-up comedian? He maybe an "okay" actor that was funny, back in the day... And he invoked some of his "contacts" to "jumpstart" his career. If he was trying to make that change, cannot have redemption, ever... Unless he did a stand-up comedy routine at Def Comedy Jam with Russell Simmons... Maybe I'd give him props if he survives...

What's the difference between Michael Richards using the "n-word" versus Katt Williams or Mike Epps--who use it all the time? The audience racial make-up? The "level" of understanding? Richards loses his temper due to a heckler and says racial epithets that were not funny... Katt or Mike say almost the same thing, it's funny as hayle...

The use of the epipthet in language fails to desensitize to "soul damage" it inflicts or the conjectured imagery. That is why that one word is so painful and wrong in any public audience.

But you try explaining that to your friends and the kids and as Darryl James says, Stupid Ass Negroes...

[PhrozenGod01]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

I fail to see how I compared this luser to the "King's of Comedy"... I think you have read way too much into what I exactly stated, which clearly was, would homeboy say that same chit in front of them...

I should have put more smiley and sarcastic emoticons on my original post. It's just not my style. I actually agree with everything you said. It was just a boring day at work and the reality of the incident hadn't set in with the co-workers who are cool enough to talk about it.

I do wonder if he would say the exact same stuff in the presence of those comedians. He probably would say it in his head as he sits in the audience or something.

[n4sir5]

I apologize GC crew. my neanderthal, evil, innerself came up with these immediate responses to some statements...forgive me!

On a semi-tangent, I was trying to think about what he could do to redeem himself somehow. He's not really, really old or anything.

Take his gra$$whoopin and ask for another!

Maybe he should try to get on Comicview or something like that. I know they wouldn't want him on, but millions of people would tune in to see what happens when he takes the stage.

THAT'S IT...Whoop his gra$$ on Comicview...ON BET...LIVE... If he thought he got heckled before....he ain't seen nothing yet! Aint social reparations a witch?!?

Whoopie and Dave Chappelle can give color commentary...


BTW, do we have an over/under before the OH's (Original Hecklers) get an attorney for pain and suffering???? but that is another story...

Get Behind Me Devil!


WAR: The Late Nipsey Russell with a witty rhyme for this isht

[SummerChild]

Some of these posts seem absolutely ridiculous to me. First there is the question as to whether or not a man who refers to lynching black people with a fork in their behinds is racist. If that is not racist, I can't imagine what could be racist. Maybe the folk who don't think that he is a racist are just being funny and trying to get a rise out of others. Is it a bad joke?

Then there are the people who want to minimize it and sweep it under the rug as if it is just c'est la vie, oh another fall day. Give me a break people. Some of ya'll can't be serious.

ETA: Absolutely absurd.

SC

[southernelle25]

How he could redeem himself ... I'm drawing a blank.

[thesweetestone]

Originally Posted by southernelle25

How he could redeem himself ... I'm drawing a blank.

He can redeem himself by apologizing, and that is what he has done. I do not think this man is a racist. He is not the first person to have said something bad about another race or culture.

Seinfeld show wass a show about NOTHING. It was not show about any race of people. They would sit and talk about salsa and mustard.

[Senusret I]

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by thesweetestone

He can redeem himself by apologizing, and that is what he has done. I do not think this man is a racist. He is not the first person to have said something bad about another race or culture.

LOL. Americans are cute.

[PhrozenGod01]

Originally Posted by southernelle25

How he could redeem himself ... I'm drawing a blank.

I was referring to redeeming his career. His 15 minutes will fizzle eventually and he would probably want another 15, sometime before he dies. I don't care whether he does or not, because there are many more racist people who are more germane to my life right now.

Without a doubt, I believe he is a racist, but then again, who isn't? After watching that video, all I could think was... Jackass!!! and not the funny MTV version either.