2006 College Football - Page 44

jon1856 · #**646** 11-19-2006, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin

An 8 team playoff would only take 3 weeks. The bowl season currently takes a lot longer than 3 weeks.

Only 8 teams?

jon1856 · #**647** 11-19-2006, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

I think we need to move to an 8 team playoff. I would require that each conference have a championship game, and the 6 BCS conferences put their champ into the playoff with automatic bids. Then I'd set up a more extensive coaching panel to vote for 2 at large bids. No coaches from the automatic qualifiers would be allowed to vote, nor would any of the votes of those competing for the 2 at large bids be counted. This could be a problem because 2 at large bids aren't really enough, but I really don't want to go much higher. I think theres something to be said for only conference champions getting in, but because of a lack of parity, its not fair that the Big East would get as much as the SEC. Also, we'd have to make ND join a conference if they want to get in. Now, naturally I think it would be wise to have a larger playoff, but its simply not good for the sport. Not only do you have the longer season concern, but I really don't want to see NCAA football become NCAA bball, the point of a playoff should be to determine who the best team that year is, not who can go on a run at the right time. I like cinderellas in the tourney, but lets leave it to basketball.

On second reading, I do like your thoughts.
Think one would hear from some of the teams in the top 10-15-20 that did not make it this way but over all not bad.

Kevin · #**648** 11-19-2006, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jon1856

Only 8 teams?

More than that really. Requiring the BCS schools to play Conference Championship games for their automatic bids is essentially adding another round of elimination to the playoffs.

DeltAlum · #**649** 11-20-2006, 12:31 AM

A college playoff senario has been debated on and off for years. Length of season and wear and tear on the student athletes are just two of the arguments brought against it.

I understand the arguments, but just don't know how to "crown" a national champion without a playoff series.

Since football is the big money sport (TV rights included), the cynic in me wonders why there isn't a playoff in place already.

jon1856 · #**650** 11-20-2006, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DeltAlum

A college playoff senario has been debated on and off for years. Length of season and wear and tear on the student athletes are just two of the arguments brought against it.

I understand the arguments, but just don't know how to "crown" a national champion without a playoff series.

Since football is the big money sport (TV rights included), the cynic in me wonders why there isn't a playoff in place already.

There was a rather interesting "flip side" story in local news today. Seems as Rutgers favored its football team ($$$) over the past few years over other sports. As such, several teams will be terminated next year.

DeltAlum · #**651** 11-20-2006, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by AGDee

This could be the best Michigan v. Ohio State game in years. We're looking forward to it!

Absolutely on the mark. One of the best games in one of the biggest rivalry in college football history.

AGDee · #**652** 11-20-2006, 07:58 AM

Perhaps it's my female perspective (not being as competitive in general), but I'm not sure I see why college teams have to have a national champion. Why can't there just be conference champions for each conference? Even the pro sports have "wildcards" in their playoffs and sometimes those wildcards win, even though they didn't have the best record. I'm not convinced that's a perfect system either (even though it allowed the Tigers to go to the World Series this year). Why does there have to be one national champ? Why can't the champs of each conference just be recognized as being excellent?

ETA: I thought the BCS standings were based on a statistical analysis of performance and wins and losses, so it's more objective and less subjective than Coach and AP ratings. Therefore, I don't see how "opinion" should affect the BCS championship game. If the two teams with the highest scores are in the same conference, then so be it.

ForeverRoses · #**653** 11-20-2006, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DeltAlum

Hey, thanks to you and BigRedBeta for the kind comments.

I've always been a fan of collegiate sports on the more minor level, and after being through years of university administrations who didn't support our teams, it's great to see what is, hopefully, the beginning of a comeback for Ohio Football. It's fun to watch a game where all of the players don't expect to compete on Sunday afternoons -- and where graduation levels are in the 80 to 90 percentages.

I wish I could spend every glorious Fall football Saturday in in the Hocking Hills in Athens.

No need to thank me- They are my Bobcats too! I've already ordered my championship long sleeve tee shirt from the College Bookstore and matching ones for my two little boys (and future Bobcats)

macallan25 · #**654** 11-20-2006, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by AGDee

Perhaps it's my female perspective (not being as competitive in general), but I'm not sure I see why college teams have to have a national champion. Why can't there just be conference champions for each conference? Even the pro sports have "wildcards" in their playoffs and sometimes those wildcards win, even though they didn't have the best record. I'm not convinced that's a perfect system either (even though it allowed the Tigers to go to the World Series this year). Why does there have to be one national champ? Why can't the champs of each conference just be recognized as being excellent?

ETA: I thought the BCS standings were based on a statistical analysis of performance and wins and losses, so it's more objective and less subjective than Coach and AP ratings. Therefore, I don't see how "opinion" should affect the BCS championship game. If the two teams with the highest scores are in the same conference, then so be it.

Its just that when that second team in the conference loses to the team that is going to the National Championship outright......they shouldn't get rewarded for making it a close game and have a chance to play them again. Give someone else a shot, Florida/Arkansas Notre Dame/USC (God forbid). We know OSU is a better team than Michigan. To me, they will solidify their status as the best team if they can defeat a wide range of opponents.....not one that they already beat.

shinerbock · #**655** 11-20-2006, 01:28 PM

I'm almost hoping for a OSU-UM rematch, simply to bust the system open again. I hope for controversy every year. Nobody wants to see USC play again. Ever. Until the National Title game is on their home station of TBS, they shouldnt be in the title game.

macallan25 · #**656** 11-20-2006, 01:48 PM

I agree......

amycat412 · #**657** 11-20-2006, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

Nobody wants to see USC play again. Ever. Until the National Title game is on their home station of TBS, they shouldnt be in the title game.

lol except, of course, USC fans.

DeltAlum · #**658** 11-20-2006, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverRoses

No need to thank me- They are my Bobcats too! I've already ordered my championship long sleeve tee shirt from the College Bookstore and matching ones for my two little boys (and future Bobcats)

Oh, for some reason I thought you were from that school 75 miles to the North.

The one that won some other championship on Saturday...

Anyway, I was just IMing with a alum from my era who is a newspaper editor in Florida. The Cats may play in the GMAC bowl instead of the Motor City Bowl.

If the timing works out, I may try to get to the game.

He's a former Marching 110 member and says Homecoming was spectacular this year -- perfect Athens football weather. I'm bummed I couldn't go.

ForeverRoses · #**659** 11-20-2006, 05:53 PM

Nope I am a Bobcat first and foremost. But I was raised in Columbus on Ohio State football, so the only time I root against Ohio State is when they are playing Ohio University (I have a framed picture of the scoreboard from the last time they played back in 1999 that shows OU winning- yes I was at that game!).

So the GMAC Bowl- finally I can watch them play on tv! (isn't it ironic that that MAC champs might play in the GMAC bowl?)

DeltAlum · #**660** 11-20-2006, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverRoses

(I have a framed picture of the scoreboard from the last time they played back in 1999 that shows OU winning- yes I was at that game!)

I was there as well -- and also grew up in Columbus.

I went to two alumni functions that weekend (I was president of the Colorado Chapter at the time), and spent a lot of the second one with Jimmy Crum, with whom I worked at Channel 4 in Columbus years before. (He now lives in the same retirement complex as my mother-in-law.)

We went to the OSU band "Skull Session" where the Marching 110 played as well.

What a great weekend that was!!

Figure out a way to scan that pic and e-mail it to me. I'd love to have it with my other O.U. stuff in our family room!

ETA, Here's an explaination of the bowl picture from my pal the newspaper guy...

I guess if we WIN the MAC we'd go to the Motor City Bowl. Lose the
championship, and we'd probably go to GMAC in Mobile.

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* The Motor City Bowl features the MAC #1 selection vs. the Big Ten #7
selection. The Big Ten must have at least seven bowl-eligible teams to send
a team to the Motor City Bowl; or at least eight bowl-eligible teams if the
Big Ten places two teams in the BCS.

* The GMAC Bowl will be shown nationally on ESPN and will feature teams from
Conference USA versus the Mid American Conference or the Western Athletic
Conference.