NPHC vs. 25/52 Family-Why the animosity?

[pirate00]

This is the first I've heard about any feud between the NPHC and APO/GSS family. Maybe it's because I don't attend a HBCU, but I am an APO Brother. I can only speak for ECU, though. We have both APO and a GSS chapter here and the "Divine Nine" are represented here (except for Iota Phi Theta) and we seem to co-exist peacefully.

[Senusret I]

No one was thinking about this thread for seven years.

[preciousjeni]

LOL

[Little32]

LOL. What is up with all of the necroposting lately?

[moe.ron]

Originally Posted by Little32

LOL. What is up with all of the necroposting lately?

Yeah

[LoveDove]

Originally Posted by pirate00

This is the first I've heard about any feud between the NPHC and APO/GSS family. Maybe it's because I don't attend a HBCU, but I am an APO Brother. I can only speak for ECU, though. We have both APO and a GSS chapter here and the "Divine Nine" are represented here (except for Iota Phi Theta) and we seem to co-exist peacefully.

Hey Frat. Well on my campus (ECSU, which I know that you know about us, well at least u should) But anyway, many people don't like the name Alpha Phi Omega because it has Alpha Phi (A-Phi) and Omega (Que). Other then that, thats it. I really don't pay it any mind b/c I am a Brother of A-Phi-Que and I am in a divine nine org.
But many people don't, and I see that b/c APO isn't part of the divine nine. They think b/c people join a greek letter org. that isn't divine nine b/c they couldn't get into a divine nine org. which isn't the case. I became a brother because I love to help others and APO does more community service then any divine nine org.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by LoveDove

Hey Frat. Well on my campus (ECSU, which I know that you know about us, well at least u should) But anyway, many people don't like the name Alpha Phi Omega because it has Alpha Phi (A-Phi) and Omega (Que). Other then that, thats it. I really don't pay it any mind b/c I am a Brother of A-Phi-Que and I am in a divine nine org.
But many people don't, and I see that b/c APO isn't part of the divine nine. They think b/c people join a greek letter org. that isn't divine nine b/c they couldn't get into a divine nine org. which isn't the case. I became a brother because I love to help others and APO does more community service then any divine nine org.

Sometimes I wonder whether Alpha Phi Omega at the HBCUs would be better off if it didn't refer to itself as A-Phi-Que. Do the Omega's view us using Q to represent our Omega to be flattery or not?

I'm still trying to find out both when Omega Psi Phi started using Q to describe itself and when Alpha Phi Omega at the HBCUs started using Q as part of its self description.

Randolph Finder
Alpha Phi Omega History and Archives Cmte.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by naraht

Sometimes I wonder whether Alpha Phi Omega at the HBCUs would be better off if it didn't refer to itself as A-Phi-Que. Do the Omega's view us using Q to represent our Omega to be flattery or not?

I'm still trying to find out both when Omega Psi Phi started using Q to describe itself and when Alpha Phi Omega at the HBCUs started using Q as part of its self description.

Randolph Finder
Alpha Phi Omega History and Archives Cmte.

I think NOT.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by naraht

Sometimes I wonder whether Alpha Phi Omega at the HBCUs would be better off if it didn't refer to itself as A-Phi-Que. Do the Omega's view us using Q to represent our Omega to be flattery or not?

I'm still trying to find out both when Omega Psi Phi started using Q to describe itself and when Alpha Phi Omega at the HBCUs started using Q as part of its self description.

Randolph Finder
Alpha Phi Omega History and Archives Cmte.

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

I think NOT.

Agreed. I'm an APO brother who detests "A Phi Que."

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by naraht

Sometimes I wonder whether Alpha Phi Omega at the HBCUs would be better off if it didn't refer to itself as A-Phi-Que. Do the Omega's view us using Q to represent our Omega to be flattery or not?

I'm still trying to find out both when Omega Psi Phi started using Q to describe itself and when Alpha Phi Omega at the HBCUs started using Q as part of its self description.

Randolph Finder
Alpha Phi Omega History and Archives Cmte.

Whether Omegas find it flattering is irrelevant -- most Ques I know really don't care one way or the other. It's usually people who aren't Ques who make it a big deal.

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

Agreed. I'm an APO brother who detests "A Phi Que."

You also weren't initiated into a chapter where "A Phi Que" as a term was part of the chapter's heritage.

It is my belief that on those campuses where it is made into a huge problem, it isn't worth it to demand to be called A Phi Que. This would hold especially true on those campuses where the fraternity has been dormant for some time.

But why would the FAMU chapter stop referring to themselves as A Phi Que? It shouldn't.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

You also weren't initiated into a chapter where "A Phi Que" as a term was part of the chapter's heritage.

It's not just the name, though. It's what it represents. Chapters that call themselves A Phi Que are usually men-only by design.

[Senusret I]

I think chapters that call themselves A Phi Que because it's part of their campus culture or chapter culture. It's usually not meant to signify a difference between men and women except among an extreme minority of members (JayBee) who want it to signify that.

[gamma_girl52]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

I think chapters that call themselves A Phi Que because it's part of their campus culture or chapter culture. It's usually not meant to signify a difference between men and women except among an extreme minority of members (JayBee) who want it to signify that.

I would have to respectfully disagree on this only because that still is used to signify a difference between all-male/co-ed chapters. I know a lot of A Phi Ques who would tell you in a minute that they are different from their APO counterparts and this is the reason they would give. A Phi Ques can only be males who pledged at an all-male chapter ("Vikes" are the other name used for these men too) and both titles are used interchangeably anyway all the time. So, for a woman/APO (somebody who pledged at a co-ed chapter) to call herself an A Phi Que would get some sideways looks.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by gamma_girl52

I would have to respectfully disagree on this only because that still is used to signify a difference between all-male/co-ed chapters. I know a lot of A Phi Ques who would tell you in a minute that they are different from their APO counterparts and this is the reason they would give. A Phi Ques can only be males who pledged at an all-male chapter ("Vikes" are the other name used for these men too) and both titles are used interchangeably anyway all the time. So, for a woman/APO (somebody who pledged at a co-ed chapter) to call herself an A Phi Que would get some sideways looks.

And this is one of those instances where it's best to let Brothers have this conversation.

[APhiQuetieACE]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

And this is one of those instances where it's best to let Brothers have this conversation.

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