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Old 11-17-2006, 02:58 PM
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Well, the jury in the criminal trial couldn't find him guilty.

Of course that doesn't mean they thought he is innocent either.
Uh, they certainly didn't find him "kinda innocent" - I'm pretty sure that wasn't an option on the verdict sheet.
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Old 11-17-2006, 03:05 PM
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is "innocent" an option or just simply "guilty" or "not guilty"? because saying "there wasn't enough solid evidence to convict" is not the same as saying "this person didn't have anything to do with" whatever is in question
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Old 11-17-2006, 03:37 PM
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is "innocent" an option or just simply "guilty" or "not guilty"? because saying "there wasn't enough solid evidence to convict" is not the same as saying "this person didn't have anything to do with" whatever is in question
Exactly. The options are:

guilty -- meaning the jury finds that the state has proven beyond a reasonable doubt the guilt of the defendant, and

not guilty -- meaning the jury finds that the state has not proven beyond a reasonable doubt the guilt of the defendant.

Neither "innocent" nor "totally innocent" are on the verdict sheet.
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Old 11-17-2006, 03:41 PM
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But in the civil trial, they did find him to be "responsible", right?
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Old 11-17-2006, 03:53 PM
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But in the civil trial, they did find him to be "responsible", right?
Yes, though "liable" would be the word.

But the standard of proof in a civil trial is "preponderance of the evidence" -- basically meaning "more likely than not" or, if you imagine the scales of justice, that the evidence against him tipped the scales, even if only so slightly. Not nearly as heavy a burden as "beyond a reasonable doubt."
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Old 11-20-2006, 09:09 PM
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Uh, they certainly didn't find him "kinda innocent" - I'm pretty sure that wasn't an option on the verdict sheet.
Obviously.

The point being that even if a jury finds (found) him "not guilty," it doesn't necessarily mean they believe he is "innocent." Just that guilt wasn't proven. Right?
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Old 11-20-2006, 11:29 PM
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A view on matter from the Op-Ed/Editorial Cartoons:
http://cagle.com/news/OJDidIt/
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Old 11-22-2006, 12:53 PM
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Another twist from TV Week:

"The O.J. Simpson book saga took another twist Tuesday when his former sister-in-law, Denise Brown, accused the media company behind the project of trying to buy her family's silence for "millions of dollars."

Simpson's book, "If I did it," was a sequel few had dared conceive, with Simpson _ acquitted of murdering his ex-wife and her friend but later found liable in civil court _ describing how he would have killed them

A spokesman for News Corp., owner of Fox Broadcasting and publisher HarperCollins, confirmed that the company had conversations with representatives of Nicole Brown Simpson's and Ron Goldman's families over the past week and that the families were offered all profits from the planned Simpson book and television show, but he denied that it was hush money.

"There were no strings attached," News Corp. spokesman Andrew Butcher said."

Right.
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What? Another controversy connected to the book.... shocking....

I guess the cynic in me finds the fact that all the little branches of Rupert's little empire seem to be doing their darn best to keep the story alive through outrage and controversy a little ummm... exploitive, manufactured, and grossly capitalistic.... which sadly is in keeping with the SOP of Ruperts little empire...
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Old 11-23-2006, 07:57 PM
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What? Another controversy connected to the book.... shocking....

I guess the cynic in me finds the fact that all the little branches of Rupert's little empire seem to be doing their darn best to keep the story alive through outrage and controversy a little ummm... exploitive, manufactured, and grossly capitalistic.... which sadly is in keeping with the SOP of Ruperts little empire...
I thought that Rupert was on a mission to keep everything "fair and balanced."
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Am I the only one who wonders what his children think about all of this? Sydney is 21, and Justin is 18 - other than not wanting to lose Daddy's money, it seems odd to me that they would want to be around the man who ("possibly") killed their mother.
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