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11-12-2006, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by dzdst796
OK. I think the stressing about what to call it "Marriage or Civil Union" is ridiculous. As long as it is a union that is considered valid and that the benefits can be shared between both people, regardless of gender that is the important factor in all of this.
Heterosexuals should not be offended by it being called a "Marriage" and homosexuals need to be glad that they will be able to reap the benefits of their union being legal.
And lets not start the conversation about "God" and how He feels about it. God feels a certain way about everything and we as people don't heed to it so this issue shouldn't be held to a higher standard than anything else.
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Its "ridiculous" only if you have no benchmarks. If your standards for marriage mean a "husband and wife", then what its call is meaningful. The problem with secular humanism is its absence of standands and moral equivalency which leads to a watering down and lack of respect for ideals that require man to rise to a higher level rather than sinking to the lowest common denominator which you advocate with your "who cares" position. That attitude and its subsequent lifestyle choices are the root of many of the pathologies which ails our communities and is the basis for our apathetic and apologetic stance on sources of behavior which destroys families.
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11-12-2006, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by PerroLoco
Its "ridiculous" only if you have no benchmarks. If your standards for marriage mean a "husband and wife", then what its call is meaningful. The problem with secular humanism is its absence of standands and moral equivalency which leads to a watering down and lack of respect for ideals that require man to rise to a higher level rather than sinking to the lowest common denominator which you advocate with your "who cares" position. That attitude and its subsequent lifestyle choices are the root of many of the pathologies which ails our communities and is the basis for our apathetic and apologetic stance on sources of behavior which destroys families.
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11-22-2006, 05:20 AM
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"If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." John 8:7
What makes your sins any better than anyone else you claim to have sinned?
For those against gay marriages, you should worry about your own relationship with God and not anyone elses.
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11-22-2006, 12:46 PM
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Brooklyn, so, because we've sinned, we should open up the door for the government to legitimize other people's sin? Nobody is saying "hey, you're a sinner, we're not." However, the Bible doesn't say to condone other people's sin either.
On the main note, screw it, just let them have civil unions. A lot of people in this country care about the term marriage and what it symbolizes. Let them keep that, and give gay people the unions they want. Frankly i just want the issue to end.
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11-26-2006, 10:42 AM
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I just wanted to point out if it already hasn't been pointed out that legalizing same sex marriage does not make it more of a sin in GOD's eyes while neither does discriminating against gays make the sin of homosexuality go away. In America, the church and state are supposed to be separate. The same rights that give me the freedom to be a Christian without persecution, give someone else the right to worship how they want to. I do not agree with so many Christians getting into politics and trying to make laws that make America more Christian, even if it benefits me as a Christian. The problem with that is that if the US did become a one religion nation, even if it was Christianity for a while, even a 100 years, eventually things change and what do you do when your veiw isn't whats popular? People try to throw religion into this but its not about religion, its discrimination. I may not agree with same sex marriage, but I also don't believe in alcohol consumption, or stip clubs, or a host of other "sinful behavior" that is legal, but I still recognize that my beliefs should not be a determining factor in legislation. If Christians have a problem with gay people and gay marriage, then they should do more praying, and evangelizing. Didn't Jesus say render to Caeser what is Caeser and to GOD what is GODs?
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11-26-2006, 12:18 PM
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NewBee, enabling gay marriage is a state stamp of approval on homosexual relationships. Thus, many Christians are against their government providing for an act they believe to be sinful.
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