Athletics in Greek Life

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Many Coaches don't want their Jocks to be taken away from The Team Mentality. Concentrate on the team so to speak.

Funny our last President played football and was a Acadamien All American with a 4.0.

He learned more from being a member of a glo than playing football.

All many of these neanderthal coaches have to do is go to web sites and see how many key players were members of glos.

Ummmm....are you talking about Clinton? Clinton was in a co-ed social fraternity and played intramural rugby at Oxford. Where did you get that he was an AllAmerican football player? He went to Georgetown and Oxford???

All many of these neanderthal coaches have to do is go to web sites and see how many key players were members of glos.

.........and I don't even know what this means.

[alum]

My daughter competes at the intercollegiate level. Her sport's college team has 100% Greek membership for the sophomores through seniors. The freshmen have to wait for deferred recruitment so we'll see if the tradition continues. What's nice about many of the women's teams at her school is that the team members tend to pledge as individuals thus resulting in membership in all the groups. The boys at her school seem to have more of a mob mentality about the process as certain fraternities are known to be the baseball, the lacrosse, et al groups.

[macallan25]

What school is this? I've never heard of that sort of anything anywhere. I have experience with college baseball.....and I don't see how it would be possible to even have the time think about joining a fraternity.

[EE-BO]

When I was at Texas, when chapters took athletes they pretty much excused them from most pledge activities. It is the trade-off of having the prestige of athletes in the fraternity.

Besides, someone who dedicates himself to something as demanding and rewarding as college athletics is the kind of guy you want in your chapter anyway. So why not make some compromises so he can do both?

One thing is for sure, anyone doing collegiate athletics is already getting a lot of the education pledgeship provides.

[alum]

It's a D3 school. Obviously there aren't quite the demands on D3 athletes but they still are putting in 20 hrs per week between practices and competitions.

My brother played baseball at MIT, was a 4 year active member and officer of his fraternity, and graduated with a 4.0. Most of his fraternity brothers were baseball and rugby players. Again, just Division 3 but still extremely time-consuming.

[PhrozenGod01]

Originally Posted by EE-BO

When I was at Texas, when chapters took athletes they pretty much excused them from most pledge activities. It is the trade-off of having the prestige of athletes in the fraternity.

Besides, someone who dedicates himself to something as demanding and rewarding as college athletics is the kind of guy you want in your chapter anyway. So why not make some compromises so he can do both?

One thing is for sure, anyone doing collegiate athletics is already getting a lot of the education pledgeship provides.

My chapter has had a bunch of athletes go through. Currently, there is a basketball player and a baseball player in the chapter, and a recent grad played football. In my chapter's history, the school's first Black quarterback was a member as well as hall-of-famers throughout the years.

But NO ONE gets any special treatment. We respect obligations to athletics(or any important student group for that matter) but no responsibilities are shirked or compromised.

[speedsters]

i'm an athlete and also in a sorority, granted its a DIII school, but i'm captain of my school's very successful crew team as well on the panhel council.

on my team we have always had girls in sororities, my co-captain is president of her sorority. and in my sorority we have other rowers, basketball, soccer, lacrosse and volleyball.

but greek life and sports are quite common for some sports here - rowing, women's basketball, volleyball, baseball, but others the coaches frown upon it - mens basketball and lacrosse.

[Tom Earp]

Maybe it is because that when the Jock period is over there is another alternitive, being a Greek where one can learn many more things!

1. How to work with people.
2. How to manage people.
3. How to run official Offices.

Oh, you don't get brusied and beat up as easly too.!

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by macallan25

Ummmm....are you talking about Clinton? Clinton was in a co-ed social fraternity and played intramural rugby at Oxford. Where did you get that he was an AllAmerican football player? He went to Georgetown and Oxford???




.........and I don't even know what this means.

Maybe there is a lot of things you do not get.

This a Greek Site, not a President site.


Dont Make Fun of Brother Bill, at least there were good times and people had more than change in their pockets, DAH!

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Maybe there is a lot of things you do not get.

This a Greek Site, not a President site.


Dont Make Fun of Brother Bill, at least there were good times and people had more than change in their pockets, DAH!

You make me want to kick small children.

[noobishactz]

Well that is great that your daughter is able to become a Greek Athlete. Yet it is a chapter by chapter as well as a school by school basis. Also a sport by sport basis as where each individual school, chapter, and activity differs its priorities

[KSigkid]

At my school, I know athletes were strongly discouraged from going Greek. Most of the sports were D1, and I believe the hockey coach outright forbid it. We had a couple of soccer players and some crew members over the years, but I think that was the extent of it.

It was my understanding that, at some schools, there are certain fraternities almost completely made up of athletes (football teams, etc.).

[alum]

Actually the title of the thread Athletics in Greek Life is somewhat misleading. To me, that would be discussing the GLO teams that compete on an intermural level.

This thread should be called Athletes in Greek Life OR Greeks in Athletics.

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I looked at some old issues of my GLO's magazine. Actives have been profiled in our magazine who are intercollegiate D1 athletes in a myriad of sports running the gamut from cross-country to equestrian competition.

The coaches at my alma mater didn't forbid or ban Greek membership for the intercollegiate athletes. However, the College of Fine Arts faculty made it very difficult for the dramats and other BFA candidates to pledge. This was not the case at the other colleges that are part of the university system.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by alum

Actually the title of the thread Athletics in Greek Life is somewhat misleading. To me, that would be discussing the GLO teams that compete on an intermural level.

This thread should be called Athletes in Greek Life OR Greeks in Athletics.

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I looked at some old issues of my GLO's magazine. Actives have been profiled in our magazine who are intercollegiate D1 athletes in a myriad of sports running the gamut from cross-country to equestrian competition.

The coaches at my alma mater didn't forbid or ban Greek membership for the intercollegiate athletes. However, the College of Fine Arts faculty made it very difficult for the dramats and other BFA candidates to pledge. This was not the case at the other colleges that are part of the university system.

The Kappa Sig magazine had an article a couple of years ago on the decline of collegiate athletes in the fraternity. There was a period when the fraternity had quite a few collegiate and professional athletes, and that has fallen off almost completely recently. It may have something to do with the discussion of this thread, or it may just be that Kappa Sig isn't the football/baseball/whatever fraternity on campuses.

The professors at my school never did anything as far as limiting Greek involvement, although there were some who looked down on it. On the other hand, it was a professor who helped revive the Greek system at my school in the mid 1980's.

[33girl]

Like EE-BO said, I think there used to be a lot of sorority and fraternity chapters that would let a member get away with blowing off a lot more things if they were an athlete - because of the prestige. Clarion was D1 in swimming/diving when I attended and the top diver joined a sorority. The only time I EVER saw her doing things at them was...Greek Week, during Greek Swim. But they got to say "Donna Smith is an ABC" at rush.

I think that nowadays, far fewer Greek groups put up with that kind of thing. As it should be, IMO. I've never believed in giving someone a "pass" because they're an athlete or student senate prez or a pageant winner. One of the girls we open bid decided not to pledge us because she was elected to Student Senate (she eventually became President) and knew she wouldn't have the proper amount of time to give us. I really, really respect her for that.

So...if you can handle both to your satisfaction and that of your team and GLO, fine. But don't try to half-ass it.