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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS
Shinerbock is right. It doesn't have to affect him directly for him to have an opinion and concern.
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Well, you know what "they" say about opinions... I am not asking for an opinion, I really want to know what his thinking, the epistemology of his thinking, how come he really thinks that. I could care less about his opinion.
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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS
Following your logic none of us should support affirmative action initiatives, EEOC, or social welfare programs if we've never knowingly been at the receiving end of discrimination or hardship based on race, class, and/or gender. Of course most of us are or have been targets for discrimination at some level based on race, class and/or gender so not being conscious of that fact doesn't erase it.
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I fail to see how I came to that logic. That is your logic and that makes you putting words into my mouth. I am not asking why, I am asking how. End result. Based on what I am seeing in health care disparities alone dictates in the 3 states I have resided in suggests the outcomes of ending affirmative action or choices to attend school... Right now, the way I see it, the end of affirmative action causes massive increases in poor health outcomes. The rate of occurrence is within 2 years. All historical ethnic and immigrant groups regardless of income status. Also, holds true for disabled persons.
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In your defense, I believe you are essentially saying that people shouldn't be so passionate about eliminating affirmative action just because a relatively small number of white people across the country claim reverse-discrimination. So unless the anti-AffAct whites can PROVE that they are one of the relatively few who have been passed up for a less qualified minority applicant, or there's evidence to suggest a high probability of that occuring, what's the issue? Afraid of the status quo crumbling and no longer being able to opportunity hoard? Whites are still the majority and there is no real threat of whites' missing out of opportunities because of the existence of affirmative action. White males are still at the top of most companies (which has some benefit for white women just like gender-based affirmative action does) and most work environments and promotion opportunities across the country are almost exclusively white.
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I think I am saying something different. I think people in the majority, mainly whites and some Asians, should be passionate about ending Affirmative Action.
Really, this issue all boils down to money and who is making it and why.
As long as little Black boys are running in those games, then that is why they need to be admitted. Oh the fear that these same kids desire to become a physician or engineer to not only better themselves but also their communities...
The look are the misperceived "balance of power". Let's call it like we see it. Most folks who ending college admissions affirmative action would affect are Hispanic/Latinos. African Americans and Native Americans are a non-factor (<1%-3%) in some states... And you may as well forget the disabled in those numbers.
Folks are not really as to why "they" dislike Affirmative Action.
Well, the repercussions are not giving a dayum about a sector or population that becomes a public health hazard and we all, humanity, have to "clean it up".
The ravages of Hurricane Katrina tells you what happens when you actively fail to give ALL people a chance...
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