Beta is back BIG at USC and Miami (FL)

[Elephant Walk]

I don't understand why ya'll think this is good? There is no way I'd take 83 guys and consider that a win. That's not even a good pledge class. They don't know each other, won't know each other, and most likely this will end up in some sort of oversight like letting a gay guy in (not going to say anything about Beta). A good pledge class consists of maybe 45 people, tops 50. Anything more is too many. It's angered me with my own fraternity.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

I don't understand why ya'll think this is good? There is no way I'd take 83 guys and consider that a win. That's not even a good pledge class. They don't know each other, won't know each other, and most likely this will end up in some sort of oversight like letting a gay guy in (not going to say anything about Beta). A good pledge class consists of maybe 45 people, tops 50. Anything more is too many. It's angered me with my own fraternity.

It's not a pledge class, it's a new colony. If the rest of the fraternities on the campus are that size, it would be a huge disadvantage for them to start with less. I doubt that they'll ever have a pledge class that large.

[amycat412]

Each school has a different Greek Culture. Houses at Southern Cal tend to be larger. 83 would make them almost compatibly sized with some of the established, better houses.

[blackngoldengrl]

It's a founding chapter, don't they have to start off large? Each pledge class after them will then probably have around 30 men each right? Which is below your cap. And a 3.6 GPA is very respectable, in addition to their extracurricular and academic achievements.

Congrats Beta!

[Elephant Walk]

Each school has a different Greek Culture. Houses at Southern Cal tend to be larger. 83 would make them almost compatibly sized with some of the established, better houses.

Our houses are much larger than that, I know about the differences in greek culture.

I hope they have good insurance in the years to come is all I have to say...

[BigRedBeta]

Technically the pledge classes are in the range of 25 guys if you look at the breakdown of how many members from each class...

It's impossible to know as an outsider how the dynamic in the chapter will set up, but I'm sure that people on this site who have been founding members will say that having that many guys is a benefit. I can't imagine the amount of work that goes into setting up something completely new like a full chapter.

[SigmaPsi_Star]

That is awesome!

Congrats to Beta!

That number seems really huge to me...but then I go to a tiny college. Our chapter of Beta almost died, but now they're working on coming back. They had 10 join last year, and 6 so far this year (not bad for a group that was down to only 4). If they don't know already, I know that our Beta's will be really excited to hear this news.

[ZZ-kai-]

I am sorry our success bothers you so much. Maybe you can visit their site from time to time and learn something from them.

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

I don't understand why ya'll think this is good? There is no way I'd take 83 guys and consider that a win. That's not even a good pledge class. They don't know each other, won't know each other, and most likely this will end up in some sort of oversight like letting a gay guy in (not going to say anything about Beta). A good pledge class consists of maybe 45 people, tops 50. Anything more is too many. It's angered me with my own fraternity.

[HornedGreek]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

IThey don't know each other, won't know each other, and most likely this will end up in some sort of oversight like letting a gay guy in (not going to say anything about Beta).

That's pretty funny. There are lots of gay Gamma and Xi chapter initiates. Many kids who are obsessed with homosexuality (like yourself) have latent tendencies, usually cloaked by self-loathing.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

I don't understand why ya'll think this is good? There is no way I'd take 83 guys and consider that a win. That's not even a good pledge class. They don't know each other, won't know each other, and most likely this will end up in some sort of oversight like letting a gay guy in (not going to say anything about Beta). A good pledge class consists of maybe 45 people, tops 50. Anything more is too many. It's angered me with my own fraternity.

I missed the part where it said they got those numbers after only one semester. Colonization as I've known it has been a 1 year process at minimum. I didn't read all that carefully, but did the article say that they recruited 83 kids in a semester?

[aopirose]

Congrats!

[AUDeltaGam]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

I don't understand why ya'll think this is good? There is no way I'd take 83 guys and consider that a win. That's not even a good pledge class. They don't know each other, won't know each other, and most likely this will end up in some sort of oversight like letting a gay guy in (not going to say anything about Beta). A good pledge class consists of maybe 45 people, tops 50. Anything more is too many. It's angered me with my own fraternity.

My pledge class (we were charter members) was 133. What do you think of that?

Congrats to Beta!!

[LaneSig]

From one Miami Triad to another, congratulations on your colonization.

[Elephant Walk]

My pledge class (we were charter members) was 133. What do you think of that?

That's fine, you're in a sorority. That has nothing to do with fraternity men.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by AUDeltaGam

My pledge class (we were charter members) was 133. What do you think of that?

Congrats to Beta!!

You are also in a Sorority.....which is completely different. Elephan Walk is correct. Pledge classes in the 40 - 50 range are about perfect. Some would say 50 is even pushing it. Most chapters that exceed that probobly aren't very good and try to blanket bid as many guys as possible.