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10-27-2006, 09:50 AM
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Oh I completely agree, as it was Bid Day, there should not have been any alcohol before, during or after the event and the sorority is responsible. I guess personally, I took the article to mean the chapter was being charged with hazing because the chapter members forced the new members to drink to excess. That is what I think would be difficult to prove.
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10-27-2006, 10:02 AM
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Oh I completely agree, as it was Bid Day, there should not have been any alcohol before, during or after the event and the sorority is responsible. I guess personally, I took the article to mean the chapter was being charged with hazing because the chapter members forced the new members to drink to excess. That is what I think would be difficult to prove.
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Yes, I think this is a RM issue - they shouldn't have let the drunk girls in or else driven them home - but it doesn't sound like a hazing issue.
And I'm with them in questioning why the campus police showed up to an off-campus event 15 miles away.
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10-27-2006, 01:15 PM
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Was this Bid day? Did I miss that part?
I am wondering, How did the non-members get there? Did sisters drive them there? Were they pledges? Did they go there voluntarily?
Lots of unanswered questions.
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10-27-2006, 02:30 PM
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REE, it sounded to me that the roller skating was the Bid Day activity. I'm guessing the women carpooled there, probably with actives driving the new members (at least, that's how it's done at my school on Bid Day). If I recall, the article said there were bottles at the roller rink, which means drinking was happening at the activity.
Is anyone else disturbed that the chapter in question was already on probation when this happened, and yet they still thought this was a good idea? I think more than a "risk management seminar" is warranted here...these ladies broke a bunch of laws/rules. That's the old Panhellenic VP of Ethics/Standards comin' out in me.
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10-27-2006, 02:55 PM
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Is anyone else disturbed that the chapter in question was already on probation when this happened, and yet they still thought this was a good idea?
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Unless the pledges brought the alcohol to the event without the chapter's knowledge.
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10-31-2006, 10:36 AM
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I agree with Peppy, in that already having a recent violation should suggest hyper vigilence.
People need to realize that they cannot take chances like this anymore. Many GLOs have strict no-alcohol policies, and (informal) policies regarding pledges/members in training. It's all about common sense here.
If you are going to 1. break the law, 2. disobey NPC or nationals's guidelines, and 3. disobey campus guidelines (even if the event happened off-campus, it being sponsored puts the situation in a very controversial jurisdiction situation), you have to be nuts to do it in a public place. Not that I advocate doing it in a private place, but have these people no sense at all?
Everyone should be patted-down for these events, or prohibited/discouraged from drinking underage and/or at formal AND informal chapter events. I am no goody-goody and by no means innocent, but anything you do these days, especially if you are in a GLO, is being watched.
THIS is how Greeks get the reputation. Sorry, I am just very frustrated that after all these years, deaths, hospitalizations, accidents, etc., this still happens.
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11-17-2006, 02:33 PM
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The Dartmouth Kappa Kappa Gamma chapter has been placed on "social probation until March 27, 2007," according to the student paper. An article (URL below) says that KKG was NOT determined to have violated the anti-hazing rules in the college's code of conduct. The paper also reports this:
In addition to its probation, Kappa will participate in alcohol education, as well as organize alcohol education events for the CFS community. According to the Office of the Dean of the College statement, Kappa will also be required to present several other educational programs to the CFS community during the summer of 2007, and "must also work with their national organization to address communication issues and compliance with Dartmouth and national organization policies."
http://www.thedartmouth.com/article....=2006111701010
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11-17-2006, 02:59 PM
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So you don't violate rules and you still get punished? "Tis a fair court."
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