Gerry Studds Dies

[AlexMack]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Centaur, uhhh, the Constitution allows for the suspension of habeas corpus...This isn't the first time this has happened.

I'm not saying I don't believe you, I'd just like to know where in the constitution it states this and when it has happened before.
As for terrorists? Look, no one likes them except other terrorists. But we're in Iraq for no reason, we still haven't caught Osama (who had nothing to do with Iraq), the extra security measures at airports still suck (I almost got onboard a plane with a 4 inch blade, I'll tell that one another day), let's not get into Guantanamo Bay.
Now we have a madman threatening to blow up the world and the lack of diplomacy on the part of the US is staggering.
You can't sneeze the wrong way without getting profiled as a terror suspect now.
It's not derision, it's the truth. Being a patriot for your country means speaking out when you know something's wrong with the way its conducting business. You're allowed to be conservative and realize that this administration is fucking up bigtime.
I have no issue with people bitching about the UK. Why? Because I don't agree with everything and I think a lot of their policies and stances aren't correct.

EDIT: Did some research on habeas corpus. The last time it was suspended was during the Civil War. I still can't find the allowance for its suspension in the constitution though.

[RACooper]

Originally Posted by centaur532

I have no issue with people bitching about the UK. Why? Because I don't agree with everything and I think a lot of their policies and stances aren't correct.

It's pretty much a national tradition over here to gripe about your government... afterall you can only complain about the weather so much.

Personally I have no problems with people picking apart some of Canada's a--hat policies (foreign or domestic) - just be prepared to debate it, because thats what people do in the pub when were not watching sports

[AlexMack]

Originally Posted by RACooper

It's pretty much a national tradition over here to gripe about your government... afterall you can only complain about the weather so much.

Personally I have no problems with people picking apart some of Canada's a--hat policies (foreign or domestic) - just be prepared to debate it, because thats what people do in the pub when were not watching sports

It's become somewhat of a pasttime in the USA too. Everytime Bush opens his mouth you can hear the headpalm.
Fun fact: When Bush is gonna spout dumb rhetoric about how great his plans are, he wears a red tie. When he is gonna tell the nation something they may not like or agree with, he wears a blue tie.