pan-hel vs. non

BootyKBG · #1 10-18-2006, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KAY10

I think it's pretty much to each its own. I consider a real fraternity or sorority one that has a lot of history behind it, is financially strong with a lot of members, and most importantly one that is life long, not just in college. Ya know the "Hey I used to be in a fraternity/sorority when I was in college. " That is so lame to me. Those aren't real organizations to me.

Lovely Response! I'm an alumni now and actually on the National Board, so I have a whole new perspective since beginning this thread. Unfortunately, not all Pan-hell representatives have this same attitude, and it turns out neither do all of our chapters. This puts us in a situation where Pan-hell may be willing to "absorb" one of our chapters, completely disregarding that we are a National sorority with 89 years of history, that specific chapter with over 50. This is something a Pan-hell sorority is forbidden to do to one of their own sororities. I'm incredibly not fond of Pan-hell as an organization right now.

33girl · #2 10-18-2006, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BootyKBG

Lovely Response! I'm an alumni now and actually on the National Board, so I have a whole new perspective since beginning this thread. Unfortunately, not all Pan-hell representatives have this same attitude, and it turns out neither do all of our chapters. This puts us in a situation where Pan-hell may be willing to "absorb" one of our chapters, completely disregarding that we are a National sorority with 89 years of history, that specific chapter with over 50. This is something a Pan-hell sorority is forbidden to do to one of their own sororities. I'm incredibly not fond of Pan-hell as an organization right now.

Do you mean an NPC sorority chapter at a specific school would absorb one of your chapters?

Or do you mean there's an NPC who wants to absorb all your chapters on a national level?

Either way - NPC would only approve it or not approve it. They can't FORCE another NPC to absorb your chapters, or to not do so, or force YOU to do anything either way. However, since you aren't an NPC right now, they aren't bound to follow any of their inter-member agreements with you.

BootyKBG · #3 10-18-2006, 06:08 PM

what I mean is that one of our chapters wants to disaffiliate and join and NPC sorority, but they are going through the motions and getting contacts while still being a KBG chapter. The entire sorority of KBG is continuing to be independent and the rest of the chapters are happy to be KBG. This specific chapter has gone behind Nationals backs to contact other sororities to see if they can join, and have gotten positive responses from both the Pan-hel reps and several of the sororities. They are treating the chapter like an independent local, and the rest of us are pissed about it.

33girl · #4 10-19-2006, 09:45 AM

To be quite blunt, it's not NPC's fault that this particular chapter is being a bunch of disloyal asshats. It could be that they are also playing the NPCs they are looking at and not telling them the whole story (i.e. saying they are already disaffiliated). If I was KBG (which I'm not, but that never stopped me from giving advice before) I would send a letter to all 26 NPCs letting them know exactly what is up and the caliber of women who would be joining their organization.

Drolefille · #5 10-19-2006, 09:48 AM

Has KBG worked toward an agreement with the NPC so that this cannot happen? I'd say that this is the only realistic way to prevent this from happening. The NPC is aware that you're a national sorority, but they aren't bound by any rules regarding the treatment of your chapters. So make some.

33girl · #6 10-19-2006, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

Has KBG worked toward an agreement with the NPC so that this cannot happen? I'd say that this is the only realistic way to prevent this from happening. The NPC is aware that you're a national sorority, but they aren't bound by any rules regarding the treatment of your chapters. So make some.

The only thing they can do is write into their own constitution that members can't join NPC groups. NPC won't make an agreement with a non-NPC sorority. That would open the door to every regional and local out there trying to get something on paper with them. I'm not devaluing KBG in any way, just saying that they have to police their own members and not depend on NPC to do it.

The reason NPHC members can't join NPCs isn't because of the NPC, it's because of NPHC. (NPHC members, please internet smack me hard if I'm wrong.)

Drolefille · #7 10-19-2006, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

The only thing they can do is write into their own constitution that members can't join NPC groups. NPC won't make an agreement with a non-NPC sorority. That would open the door to every regional and local out there trying to get something on paper with them. I'm not devaluing KBG in any way, just saying that they have to police their own members and not depend on NPC to do it.

The reason NPHC members can't join NPCs isn't because of the NPC, it's because of NPHC. (NPHC members, please internet smack me hard if I'm wrong.)

Yes but if they're leaving KBG anyway, they don't care what KBG bylaws state either. It's a chapter not an individual. I don't know enough about the NPC rules to say whether or not they'd make an agreement.

AlphaFrog · #8 10-19-2006, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

To be quite blunt, it's not NPC's fault that this particular chapter is being a bunch of disloyal asshats. It could be that they are also playing the NPCs they are looking at and not telling them the whole story (i.e. saying they are already disaffiliated). If I was KBG (which I'm not, but that never stopped me from giving advice before) I would send a letter to all 26 NPCs letting them know exactly what is up and the caliber of women who would be joining their organization.

I'm giving this a big-ol' COSIGN.

BootyKBG · #9 10-19-2006, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

To be quite blunt, it's not NPC's fault that this particular chapter is being a bunch of disloyal asshats. It could be that they are also playing the NPCs they are looking at and not telling them the whole story (i.e. saying they are already disaffiliated). If I was KBG (which I'm not, but that never stopped me from giving advice before) I would send a letter to all 26 NPCs letting them know exactly what is up and the caliber of women who would be joining their organization.

Oh, trust me, that is on the agenda!