The conflict of Sudan: Uprooting the black Africans - Page 8

DSTCHAOS · #**106** 12-29-2005, 09:17 PM

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Originally posted by RACooper
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What's with the "AmeriKKKa" your using now? I could understand once or twice to make a particular point... but now it's become a little disconcerting...
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I have been using AmeriKKKa on this board since 2001 during race discussions. You'll be okay.

Optimist Prime · #**107** 01-02-2006, 08:01 PM

we're all living in Amerika
Amerika ist wunderbar

I've used AmeriKKKa myself a few times. There are more racist in the U.S. than any other post/industiral nation. And i don't mean jokes behind each others back racism I mean the "lets go find homeless people, especially black ones, because they drain socieity and drag them from our car or shoot at them" thype racism.

That is why is many Amer-I-Cans use the KKK spelling in racial discourses.

DSTCHAOS · #**108** 01-02-2006, 09:11 PM

southernelle25 · #**109** 10-17-2006, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Arabian can be considered an ethnic, cultural, and regional grouping. The distinctions they make within that grouping can be based on religion, skin color, and so forth. To use racial subcategories is really unnecessary. But, if people insist on using "black" and "white" categories, a large percentage of people in Arabic countries would fit into AmeriKKKa's "white" category.

Perhaps, but definately not the case in Darfur/N. Sudan. Unlike in S. Sudan, these people are in every way racially the same; the vast overwhelming majority of so-called "Arabs" are indistinguishable from their neighbors. The only Arabs in Sudan are the Bedouins, and even they're more Sudanese than not.

In fact, I actually believe it does more damage to the situation when reporters, commentators, and politicians enable the "Arabs" by identifying them as such, as if they are a different race, while knowing full well that they are not. Rather, the "Arabs" should be called what they are and asked why they are killing their Sudanese brothers and why they are attacking their fellow Africans over this territory that they have shared for all their history.

southernelle25 · #**110** 10-17-2006, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudey

How come African-Americans are not as informed or active in regards to the Sudanese ethnic cleansing?

I don't understand this.

-Rudey

For the same reason the UN isn't interested, because it is neither a war between races nor a war between states. Instead, it is a civil war not very different from those fought in Algeria, Sierra Leone, Liberia, Ivory Coast, etc.

_Opi_ · #**111** 10-17-2006, 02:13 PM

So America should only care about Black Africans when Arabs are involved, eh?

Why should we put the spotlight on ONE country in Africa when so many of its neighbors are dying as well; from civil war, clan-genocide, border wars, hunger, disease, paying off DEBT from our old colonization days.

hmmm...something to think about!

shinerbock · #**112** 10-17-2006, 02:59 PM

haha, America is the most racist country...don't go to Europe much, huh?

DSTCHAOS · #**113** 10-17-2006, 03:00 PM

This thread is months old. What was the original topic?

southernelle25 · #**114** 10-17-2006, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by _Opi_

So America should only care about Black Africans when Arabs are involved, eh?

I think the point is that America doesn't care, and would care less if it knew that the "Arabs" involved were black too. You may have noticed that they are never shown on television.

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Why should we put the spotlight on ONE country in Africa ...

It is barely on one country, just on one small region of N. Sudan.

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haha, America is the most racist country...don't go to Europe much, huh?

I don't think anyone missed the riots in France.

AlexMack · #**115** 10-17-2006, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by _Opi_

So America should only care about Black Africans when Arabs are involved, eh?

Why should we put the spotlight on ONE country in Africa when so many of its neighbors are dying as well; from civil war, clan-genocide, border wars, hunger, disease, paying off DEBT from our old colonization days.

hmmm...something to think about!

It depends on the scale of the problem at hand. The spotlight shines on the big disaster of the moment. How many Americans remember the tsunami?

The problem is that Africa is absolutely huge and the politics are so complex that we may never fix post-colonial issues. We should certainly keep trying-we screwed it up back then and are continuing to screw with it now by raping African countries in the global market.
Fixing Africa means going to each separate country and working through a diplomatic nightmare, stabilizing the government and economy and ensuring that it will not implode again once we leave. Cancelling African debt would a HUGE start. Right now they're just paying the interest each year and barely making that. There is no dent in the debt and there never will be.

KSig RC · #**116** 10-17-2006, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by centaur532

We should certainly keep trying-we screwed it up back then and are continuing to screw with it now by raping African countries in the global market.

Wait - "we" here refers to many 'Western' nations, and not just the United States, right?

AlexMack · #**117** 10-17-2006, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC

Wait - "we" here refers to many 'Western' nations, and not just the United States, right?

Yes, all industrialized nations currently taking advantage of the third world. It's not just the US.

This is why I am a fair-trade-tarian. I will not touch coffee unless it's fair-trade certified and I'm trying to do the same with chocolate.