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[33girl]

Originally Posted by blueangel

However... my paperwork was stalled.. my AA chapter didn't know why. A "random stranger" in my sorority on GC was able to straighten it out for me, so I am a perfect example of how the AI forum on GC is a positive thing. There are some very kind souls here who are willing to help others.

BUT YOU DIDN'T NEED THE AI FORUM TO DO THAT.

There are lots of ZTAs on here, including the moderator who it's obvious is very involved as an alumna. You could have emailed any of them and asked them what to do, and if they didn't know they could have contacted HQ or someone else who could have helped you.

OR you could have told your AA to figure it out. If my alum chapter had a woman we really wanted to AI and her paperwork was stalled, you can bet I'd be on HQ's butts asking them what the holdup was.

YOU DIDN'T NEED AN AI FORUM TO SOLVE YOUR PROBLEM.

[blueangel]

Originally Posted by 33girl

BUT YOU DIDN'T NEED THE AI FORUM TO DO THAT.

There are lots of ZTAs on here, including the moderator who it's obvious is very involved as an alumna. You could have emailed any of them and asked them what to do, and if they didn't know they could have contacted HQ or someone else who could have helped you.

OR you could have told your AA to figure it out. If my alum chapter had a woman we really wanted to AI and her paperwork was stalled, you can bet I'd be on HQ's butts asking them what the holdup was.

YOU DIDN'T NEED AN AI FORUM TO SOLVE YOUR PROBLEM.

Actually, I did need the forum. I was about to throw in the towel because it had been nearly three years since my paperwork had been started, and I didn't know what the hold up was. Members of the Alumnae chapter didn't know, and couldn't seem to find out where the snag was. Remember.. AI is extremely rare in my GLO.

Just as I was about to give up on the whole thing, I started googling. I found the GC AI forum. I literally spent the entire night reading all of the old posts. I started to feel better, because I learned how long the process was for many here. Ironically, I read some of the stories from people who are now opposing this very forum!

Since there were no AIs from my GLO here, one of the AI's on this forum put me in touch with a member of my GLO here on GC who got the ball rolling again for me. Since, as I mentioned before, AI is extremely rare in my organization, a "random" member of my GLO on GC wouldn't necessarily be able to help me... remember.. my own Alumnae Chapter had tried to find out, but wasn't able to get answers. The person I met on the AI forum was able to point me to a person who was knowlegable about the process. It was this very person who knew who to call to find out what the hold up was.

To sum it up.. this forum is definately the reason I am in my GLO today. Had the AI forum not come up on my search, I wouldn't have found the people who helped me. Had I not read the story of others here, I would have mistakenly assumed it was never going to happen, and I would never have PMed anyone to help me find out where the snag was.

(edited for typo)

[33girl]

Originally Posted by blueangel

To sum it up.. this forum is definately the reason I am in my GLO today.

Hmm.

[blueangel]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Hmm.

And I know that now you're going to use my post to quote me out of context. So before you go down that road, I will clarify.

I was invited to become an AI nearly three years before I even knew Greek Chat existed. My paperwork hit a snag, and because of the AI forum, I was able to find a very kind and knowlegable person in my own GLO who was able to find out where the snag was, and got the ball rolling again. I never would have met her had it not been for this forum.

So yes, had I not met that person as a result of the AI forum, I would have given up.. and I would not be in my GLO.

[_Lisa_]

Originally Posted by blueangel

I never would have met her had it not been for this forum.

You mean, had it not been for GreekChat. (And you could've posted in the ZTA forum on GC if you'd had any questions.)

[blueangel]

Originally Posted by _Lisa_

You mean, had it not been for GreekChat. (And you could've posted in the ZTA forum on GC if you'd had any questions.)

Please do not put words in my mouth.

No.. I said, and I meant.. if not for the AI FORUM.

Please re-read my prior post. It spells out specifically WHY the AI forum was a great help.

[_Lisa_]

Originally Posted by blueangel

Please do not put words in my mouth.

No.. I said, and I meant.. if not for the AI FORUM.

Please re-read my prior post. It spells out specifically WHY the AI forum was a great help.

Usually one would be an indication for the other. No Greekchat would equal No AI Forum. Duh


And like I said, if the AI forum had not existed, you could've posted in the ZTA forum. Stop trying to bait everyone for an argument.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by blueangel

To sum it up.. this forum is definately the reason I am in my GLO today. Had the AI forum not come up on my search, I wouldn't have found the people who helped me. Had I not read the story of others here, I would have mistakenly assumed it was never going to happen, and I would never have PMed anyone to help me find out where the snag was.

Wait, wait, stop the train....

The actual AI forum is only a year or so old (if that)...right?? Before that everything went into "Alum Involvment". As far as I know, you've been a ZTA for more then a year...therefore the AI Forum could not be the reason that you're in your GLO.

[blueangel]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Wait, wait, stop the train....

The actual AI forum is only a year or so old (if that)...right?? Before that everything went into "Alum Involvment". As far as I know, you've been a ZTA for more then a year...therefore the AI Forum could not be the reason that you're in your GLO.

It was still an independent forum-- a subforum in the "Alumni Involvement" folder. I was here before it moved over to where it is today.. but it is the same forum.. just in a different location.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by blueangel

Actually, I did need the forum. I was about to throw in the towel because it had been nearly three years since my paperwork had been started, and I didn't know what the hold up was. Members of the Alumnae chapter didn't know, and couldn't seem to find out where the snag was. Remember.. AI is extremely rare in my GLO.

Just as I was about to give up on the whole thing, I started googling. I found the GC AI forum. I literally spent the entire night reading all of the old posts. I started to feel better, because I learned how long the process was for many here. Ironically, I read some of the stories from people who are now opposing this very forum!

Since there were no AIs from my GLO here, one of the AI's on this forum put me in touch with a member of my GLO here on GC who got the ball rolling again for me. Since, as I mentioned before, AI is extremely rare in my organization, a "random" member of my GLO on GC wouldn't necessarily be able to help me... remember.. my own Alumnae Chapter had tried to find out, but wasn't able to get answers. The person I met on the AI forum was able to point me to a person who was knowlegable about the process. It was this very person who knew who to call to find out what the hold up was.

To sum it up.. this forum is definately the reason I am in my GLO today. Had the AI forum not come up on my search, I wouldn't have found the people who helped me. Had I not read the story of others here, I would have mistakenly assumed it was never going to happen, and I would never have PMed anyone to help me find out where the snag was.

(edited for typo)

YOU READ STORIES of other people's AI.... they weren't on here asking for help. If you have to go to people you don't know and have met on the internet for help with your bid or whatever they call it, that's pretty sad. We all (or should all) know that someone we meet on the internet isn't always who they really are. Sad. Very sad.

[LPIDelta]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

YOU READ STORIES of other people's AI.... they weren't on here asking for help. If you have to go to people you don't know and have met on the internet for help with your bid or whatever they call it, that's pretty sad. We all (or should all) know that someone we meet on the internet isn't always who they really are. Sad. Very sad.

Maybe I am taking this all too far, but I want to suggested that we all need to be very careful about calling people's membership or an org's membership selection into question....as I feel the post above, and others re: OTW have done. I know these discussions can be heated, but questioning the integrity of an organization and/or its members based on one situation is really not appropriate or helpful.

[Drolefille]

Heather
I agree, although I don't think that PM_Mama was doing so in quite the same way as the other poster. Once you do so, you might as well stop listening to everyone else because you don't know if anything they say is true.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by Heather17

Maybe I am taking this all too far, but I want to suggested that we all need to be very careful about calling people's membership or an org's membership selection into question....as I feel the post above, and others re: OTW have done. I know these discussions can be heated, but questioning the integrity of an organization and/or its members based on one situation is really not appropriate or helpful.

If other organizations want to meet their members online instead of in person, that's their deal. And in my opinion I think that's pretty sad. I also have very strong opinions about AI which I've kept to myself because I don't want to put people down who have made great contributions. It's not questioning the integrity of an organization... because I'm SURE there are Phi Mu AIs who've done this also and I do not agree with it. We all have our opinions of things and I"m just giving mine. And I wasn't putting down any organization off of one situation.

And OTW isn't really a member of a sorority. A little birdy told me. Haha that's the funniest shit I've ever heard.

Oh and Tom... how would you like it if your brothers were meeting people on Greekchat and helping them AI into your org? Or better yet what if a, say, TKE or Sigma Chi, were helping another guy online AI into YOUR org? What if one of those guys had happened to be Craig/UFPike/etc??? You need to start seeing this from our perspectives.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

YOU READ STORIES of other people's AI.... they weren't on here asking for help. If you have to go to people you don't know and have met on the internet for help with your bid or whatever they call it, that's pretty sad. We all (or should all) know that someone we meet on the internet isn't always who they really are. Sad. Very sad.

Wait!! Don't do that!! You've criticized her, therefore you violated the TOS. You will be reported.

Sorry, couldn't help myself. It seemed to easy.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

YOU READ STORIES of other people's AI.... they weren't on here asking for help. If you have to go to people you don't know and have met on the internet for help with your bid or whatever they call it, that's pretty sad. We all (or should all) know that someone we meet on the internet isn't always who they really are. Sad. Very sad.

LOL. Blueangel set herself up for that one.

It's one thing to say that it is helpful that a particular forum was available for info and that she was able to meet people that way--something I still wouldn't suggest aspirants to do since I think aspirants shouldn't come to GLO message boards anyway. However, it's another thing to credit a forum with your membership and say that you wouldn't have been an XYZ had it not been for the forum. Maybe it wasn't the actual forum at all but the knowledge, that you may've found elsewhere if you knew how/where to look, and your ability to reach out to members.

Originally Posted by Heather17

Maybe I am taking this all too far, but I want to suggested that we all need to be very careful about calling people's membership or an org's membership selection into question....as I feel the post above, and others re: OTW have done. I know these discussions can be heated, but questioning the integrity of an organization and/or its members based on one situation is really not appropriate or helpful.

Well, blueangel credited one "situation" for her membership so why is it inappropriate to question someone based on the one "situation" they credit?