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10-16-2006, 11:46 PM
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Sorry, but this is untrue. I have partied with both Kappa Kappa Psi and Tau Beta Sigmas. I had an insane amount of fun. They work hard AND play hard. They weren't members of social orgs either.
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10-17-2006, 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by valmypal
the honor society that i am talking about in particular is Phi Sigma Pi. i don't think its a big deal, its kinda cool, but my psychology honor society didn't do anything like that in my undergrad and i guess i was just surprised. i had to research what phi sigma pi was cuz they are not connected to a particular department, they are an honor society trying to bridge the gaps between academics, leadership, and social.
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Phi Sigma Pi is not an honor society in the classic (Baird's) sense. It is a "Recognition Society" along the lines of Alpha Phi Omega.
On a random related note (for anyone who knows) how does Baird's classify the Pershing Rifles? Recognition or Professional?
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10-17-2006, 01:05 AM
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Very true actually. I believe I have a journal entry from sometime last summer lamenting the fact that I did not spend that night drinking with KKYs. This was after a giant blackout and 3 hours puking.
I never knew bandos could drink the way they do.
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10-17-2006, 01:11 AM
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Very true actually. I believe I have a journal entry from sometime last summer lamenting the fact that I did not spend that night drinking with KKYs. This was after a giant blackout and 3 hours puking.
I never knew bandos could drink the way they do.
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Can't imagine.
Were your KKYs also not members of social fraternities?
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10-17-2006, 09:25 AM
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On a random related note (for anyone who knows) how does Baird's classify the Pershing Rifles? Recognition or Professional?
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I would call PRs professional, seeing as they wanted my ex and I to pledge and we certainly hadn't done anything to get "recognized."
Then again, the parties I went to most my freshman year were PR parties. That is to say our PRs were very social.
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10-17-2006, 09:30 AM
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Can't imagine.
Were your KKYs also not members of social fraternities?
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No, that was the funny part. I'll say this right now, I don't actually know any frat boys at my school. I've never desired to go to a frat party.
I'm good friends with the former Northeast District President which is how I got sucked into bando world to begin with.
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10-17-2006, 09:33 AM
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Phi Sigma Pi at my school is called an "honors co-ed fraternity" and they do big/lil, have rush and PR t-shirts, and are fairly social as compared to honors societies. Same with the chemistry fraternity (Alpha Chi Sigma) at my school. I think the difference is that they are more academically and service based; I know both orgs tutor students fairly often. Social is a priority but not the primary aim.
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That is exactly how is was at my school too. I had a lot of friends who were in Phi Sigma Pi and it was an honors co-ed fraternity but was very social too. They wore letters, participated in homecoming, and had big/littles.
I am a member of Alpha Chi Sigma (which is a professional fraternity), and we had a lot of social events that weren't networking. We had formals and socials, it was a lot of fun! We too wore letters and had bigs/littles, and from my alumni newsletter are now participating in homecoming activities.
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10-17-2006, 09:47 AM
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It depends...are they "Honor Socities" or are they "Business GLOs"?...but if Mu Phi Epsilon (music business fraternity) or Sigma Tau Delta (English business) are, I don't find that wierd.
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Do you mean "professional" instead of "business"?
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I would never go to a social event sponsored by . . . a music fraternity . . . and actually expect to have fun. Events sponsored by such groups are networking opportunities and nothing more.
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DSTChaos! Who'd've expected such a closed-minded overgeneralization from you?
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10-17-2006, 10:46 AM
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Do you mean "professional" instead of "business"?
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Yes...that's the word I was looking for at the time and couldn't think of.
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10-17-2006, 11:48 AM
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DSTChaos! Who'd've expected such a closed-minded overgeneralization from you? 
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People who know me.
I'm going based on my own experiences with the students who were gungho about their professional/service/honor societies at the PWIs I attended. I was a member of such organizations but never a gungho one and these groups didn't do social events. Not to mention the fact that the fun members of professional/service/honor societies at HBCUs are people who either think they're in a social GLO or actually hold dual membership in a social GLO.
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10-17-2006, 12:16 PM
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People who know me.
I'm going based on my own experiences with the students who were gungho about their professional/service/honor societies at the PWIs I attended. I was a member of such organizations but never a gungho one and these groups didn't do social events. Not to mention the fact that the fun members of professional/service/honor societies at HBCUs are people who either think they're in a social GLO or actually hold dual membership in a social GLO.
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I was in a professional business fraternity in college, and our social events were fun for what they were. Its hard to describe, but we had Barn Dances, Formals, Bar crawls, pledge parties, etc. They didn't compare to BGLO or Black Student Union parties, but since they were in a whole different category, then I never tried to compare them. We did have pledge families (moms and dads), but I don't think that anybody ever confused it with a social organization or took it to be more than what it was.
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10-17-2006, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Marie
I was in a professional business fraternity in college, and our social events were fun for what they were. Its hard to describe, but we had Barn Dances, Formals, Bar crawls, pledge parties, etc. They didn't compare to BGLO or Black Student Union parties, but since they were in a whole different category, then I never tried to compare them. We did have pledge families (moms and dads), but I don't think that anybody ever confused it with a social organization or took it to be more than what it was.
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10-17-2006, 03:39 PM
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The Phi Sigma Pi chapter here is actually pretty anti-greek. Their rush posters this year said "RUSH Phi Sigma Pi...we're smarter than the average greeks!" All of their rush publicity centered around the stereotype of Greeks as dumb and elitist. They discourage current Greeks from pledging if they show up to rush events.
One of our new members pledged Phi Sig before recruitment. After she went Greek, her Big Bro sat her down with a bunch of officers and basically said "You really should quit Phi Sig now because we don't initiate people who are Greek because they don't participate in events."
It's ironic because while they don't like Greeks, they have big/little and other things that are reminiscent of Greek traditions.
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10-17-2006, 06:00 PM
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The Phi Sigma Pi chapter here is actually pretty anti-greek. Their rush posters this year said "RUSH Phi Sigma Pi...we're smarter than the average greeks!" All of their rush publicity centered around the stereotype of Greeks as dumb and elitist. They discourage current Greeks from pledging if they show up to rush events.
One of our new members pledged Phi Sig before recruitment. After she went Greek, her Big Bro sat her down with a bunch of officers and basically said "You really should quit Phi Sig now because we don't initiate people who are Greek because they don't participate in events."
It's ironic because while they don't like Greeks, they have big/little and other things that are reminiscent of Greek traditions.
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If I were your new member, I would complain about that to Phi Sig headquarters. Seriously.
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10-26-2006, 07:30 PM
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I agree that there is a huge difference between an honor / business society and an honor / business fraternity. I am a member of Phi Kappa Phi (National Honor Society) and I paid $50, showed up for a public initiation and that was that. We had one meeting a semester. It was not social. Professors and students alike were inducted. I have a badge with letters and a pen but that is it. I would never run out and get a sweatshirt but I receive the catalog and they do sell them.
I am a member of Alpha Psi Omega, Dramatic Fraternity and it operated similar to a social GLO. We followed national procedure with the new member process. The ritual is secret, secret handshake, all that jazz. PNM's must receive a "bid" and there is a "pledge" period.
So they were complete opposites. Did APO try to act like a social GLO? Not at all. We knew our place so to say.
My boyfriend pledged a business fraternity and they hazed. Imagine that. He quit because he was looking for a professional network, not a social org.
So yeah, it depends on what the organization is really, and what it stands for.
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