Gerry Studds Dies

[alum]

No sympathy from a Page mom. Studds and the rest of his ilk are a disgrace.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by alum

No sympathy from a Page mom. Studds and the rest of his ilk are a disgrace.

Agreed. But is the timing weird or what?

[RACooper]

Meh... exceedly unprofessional with regards to the relationship with page... but disgusting - no. Afterall it was a consentual relationship with both being of the age of consent, and the page public acknowledged this fact.

Most of those calling him and his career disgusting fall into two camps: "loyal republicans" who would decry any fault or failing in a Democrat; and those who think "fags are evil abomonations"... neither really carrys any weight, accept amongst the above two groups.

[alum]

Not true at all. I find all of the

Rep Crane's (R-IN)/female page,
Rep Foley's (R-FL)/male page,
Rep Studds' (D-MA)/male page

scandals equally reprehensible.


It's not just a pervert adult making inappropriate advances to a teenager, it's a person with a lot of position and power using that influence to consort inappropriately with a minor under the age of 18.

[shinerbock]

uh, having sex with a 17 year old guy/page while you're in congress is pretty disgusting.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by RACooper

Meh... exceedly unprofessional with regards to the relationship with page... but disgusting - no. Afterall it was a consentual relationship with both being of the age of consent, and the page public acknowledged this fact.

Most of those calling him and his career disgusting fall into two camps: "loyal republicans" who would decry any fault or failing in a Democrat; and those who think "fags are evil abomonations"... neither really carrys any weight, accept amongst the above two groups.

Not disgusting?? I disagree.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by RACooper

Meh... exceedly unprofessional with regards to the relationship with page... but disgusting - no. Afterall it was a consentual relationship with both being of the age of consent, and the page public acknowledged this fact.

Most of those calling him and his career disgusting fall into two camps: "loyal republicans" who would decry any fault or failing in a Democrat; and those who think "fags are evil abomonations"... neither really carrys any weight, accept amongst the above two groups.

This is being over-simplistic...but you seem to gladly take any shot at Republicans, so the comment doesn't surprise me. Some people think it's disgusting because of the age difference, because of the position diffferences (Congressman and page), or other reasons. It doesn't divide quite so easily into Republican and Anti-Homosexual groups.

Also, your take on Canadian vs U.S. beers is amusing, but that's a story for a whole other day.

[shinerbock]

RA, you need to look at microbrews from out west, as well as several in the southeast.

About OK City, thats not condoning action at all. The point is that testimony and the circumstances reveal that the target was not civilians. Was it reckless, and do I think they should pay for what they've done? Absolutely. My point is that they're not very similar to islamic terrorists, who target civilians. Now, if what McVeigh said was a lie, and they wanted to kill as many people as possible, so be it, but that bomb would do a lot more damage at somewhere other than the federal building.

As for Canadian military, I didn't imply at all that most were cowardly. I'm actually implying that most are probably courageous. I have no idea obviously, because I have little connection. Its simply my assumption that there are some in the military who aren't courageous, which is probably true in the U.S., but I believe the overwhelming majority are. As for the Canadian general public, i'm painting with a broad brush here, but this is based on general Canadian sentiment towards the administration and the U.S. in general. I'm sure many Canadian's are great friends to America, but it seems many are not.

[RACooper]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

RA, you need to look at microbrews from out west, as well as several in the southeast.

I'll have to next time I'm in the area... or the next time the LCBO does a spotlight on the region

As for the Canadian general public, i'm painting with a broad brush here, but this is based on general Canadian sentiment towards the administration and the U.S. in general. I'm sure many Canadian's are great friends to America, but it seems many are not.

A difference in opinions and values doesn't mean that the population isn't courageous.... afterall even the Bush administration would agree that "courage is doing the right thing even when others tell you it's wrong" - it's just that Canadians differ on what the "right thing" is/was.

For example for the most part (and in particular Quebec, those randy bastards ) have different views regarding sexuality than our American cousins - the fact that Studd's sexual relationship was consentual, and that both parties maintained this long after the fact, really diminishes the "moral outrage" factor... sure it was highly unprofessional, but for the most part Canadians (well many) echo former Primeminister Trudeau's belief that what happens in the bedroom is private (then again Trudeau's wife had an affair with Mick Jagger).

Anyways here's an old thread you might find amusing:
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...nadian+Apology