Bush's Sandwich maker to Harvard

shinerbock · #1 10-02-2006, 05:57 PM

If he werent connected to W, none of yall would give a damn.

OtterXO · #2 10-02-2006, 06:14 PM

I don't even know why this is a news story. Seriously, it's a huge honor to be the President's personal assistant, no matter what president you work for. It looks like Mr. Assistant just used the prestige of his position to his advantage.... sounds like a smart guy to me

KSigkid · #3 10-02-2006, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OtterXO

I don't even know why this is a news story. Seriously, it's a huge honor to be the President's personal assistant, no matter what president you work for. It looks like Mr. Assistant just used the prestige of his position to his advantage.... sounds like a smart guy to me

Exactly - and I'm not sure any of us wouldn't try the same thing in his position.

I'm guessing he's getting negative attention because of how unpopular the President is, not because he is taking advantage of the opportunity. I don't see how you can slander the guy for taking the chance to study at Harvard.

DSTCHAOS · #4 10-02-2006, 06:59 PM

Just a reminder of how ridiculous networking can be.

DSTCHAOS · #5 10-02-2006, 07:05 PM

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I'm guessing he's getting negative attention because of how unpopular the President is, not because he is taking advantage of the opportunity.

Probably both.

I'm not mad at him for taking advantage of the pull that the Pres has on some decisionmakers at Harvard. Does it make it a ridiculous exception to entry criteria? Yep.

starang21 · #6 10-02-2006, 08:39 PM

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Exactly - and I'm not sure any of us wouldn't try the same thing in his position.

I'm guessing he's getting negative attention because of how unpopular the President is, not because he is taking advantage of the opportunity. I don't see how you can slander the guy for taking the chance to study at Harvard.

i'd venture to say that even if the president wasn't unpopular the whole getting a master's without an undergraduate degree first would probably ruffle a few feathers.

KSigkid · #7 10-04-2006, 12:25 PM

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i'd venture to say that even if the president wasn't unpopular the whole getting a master's without an undergraduate degree first would probably ruffle a few feathers.

Possibly - I still think, though, that if it wasn't the name "Bush" attached, some of the criticisms in this thread would change to "Good for him!"

That's just my read on it though. I also agree with Munchkin that, while the admission is one thing, how well he does with it is a whole other matter.

starang21 · #8 10-04-2006, 01:01 PM

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Possibly - I still think, though, that if it wasn't the name "Bush" attached, some of the criticisms in this thread would change to "Good for him!"

That's just my read on it though. I also agree with Munchkin that, while the admission is one thing, how well he does with it is a whole other matter.

maybe, maybe not. i'd still think it was hokey as hell, lol.

KSigkid · #9 10-04-2006, 09:02 PM

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maybe, maybe not. i'd still think it was hokey as hell, lol.

Haha, fair enough.

Delt, as to your point, I don't personally think the names of the other presidents given would cause the same reaction from some of the people responding in the thread. I think people see the name "Bush" and instantly get a negative reaction. If this was Clinton or Carter, some of the people in this thread would probably have a more positive reaction to this.

DeltAlum · #10 10-04-2006, 08:55 PM

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Possibly - I still think, though, that if it wasn't the name "Bush" attached, some of the criticisms in this thread would change to "Good for him!.

Of course the name "Bush" is important to the argument and a reason for it. The names Clinton, Reagan, Carter, Nixon, Eisenhower would cause the same argument -- at least in my mind.

The almost surely wouldn't be getting this break if he didn't have presidential backing.

That's the point as I see it.

epchick · #11 10-05-2006, 02:11 AM

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Possibly - I still think, though, that if it wasn't the name "Bush" attached, some of the criticisms in this thread would change to "Good for him!"

That's just my read on it though. I also agree with Munchkin that, while the admission is one thing, how well he does with it is a whole other matter.

I'll be honest, your probably right. If it were any other president but Bush, I probably wouldn't be as upset. I still would be though!

i don't think its right that others work their butt off for 4 (or more) years to get into a top school like Harvard, and here comes Joe Shmoe who makes PB&J sandwiches for the Pres, and he gets into an MBA program with nothing but a "drop-out freshman year" on his record!

Its not right, and its not fair---but life isn't fair. So what can ya do, ya know? We can bitch and moan all we want, its not like its gonna change anything.

DSTCHAOS · #12 10-02-2006, 07:07 PM

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If he werent connected to W, none of yall would give a damn.

If he wasn't connected to W, chances are he wouldn't have tried and succeeded in getting to Harvard business.

<---doesn't dislike W

OtterXO · #13 10-02-2006, 07:14 PM

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If he wasn't connected to W, chances are he wouldn't have tried and succeeded in getting to Harvard business.

<---doesn't dislike W

Right, but my point was that it doesn't matter what President he worked/works for. I held a position at the White House while Clinton was in office and it has DEFINITELY opened doors for me. People are intrigued by it. I think the guy was smart to apply to Harvard Business School. He probably had a recommendation letter from the President, which is kickass. I'd definitely use that to my advantage for the rest of my life if I were in the same boat.

DSTCHAOS · #14 10-02-2006, 07:21 PM

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Right, but my point was that it doesn't matter what President he worked/works for. I held a position at the White House while Clinton was in office and it has DEFINITELY opened doors for me. People are intrigued by it. I think the guy was smart to apply to Harvard Business School. He probably had a recommendation letter from the President, which is kickass. I'd definitely use that to my advantage for the rest of my life if I were in the same boat.

Well I was really just responding to shinerbock's post.

Congratulations on having doors opened for you. The weight of your position should be based on your roles and responsibilities. If you were nothing but a glorified errand person, or didn't do anything that substantially overrode your failure to go to college, I would chuckle if you were accepted into ANY MBA program without a bachelor's degree.

OtterXO · #15 10-02-2006, 07:31 PM

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Well I was really just responding to shinerbock's post.

Congratulations on having doors opened for you. The weight of your position should be based on your roles and responsibilities. If you were nothing but a glorified errand person, or didn't do anything that substantially overrode your failure to go to college, I would chuckle if you were accepted into ANY MBA program without a bachelor's degree.

I wasn't mentioning my position to be congratulated, I was making the point that people, universities included, are intrigued by job experience where the applicant has worked for a person in a position of power....particularly the President.