Bush said the war in Iraq will go down in history as only a comma.

PerroLoco · #1 09-27-2006, 11:17 PM

I must support my Brother on this. I won't call Bush any names, but he is clearly overmatched in everything except his ability to be a likeable dupe who can sell flawed conservative rhetoric to the people, whilst the true leaders of this country ply their deceit in obscurity and anonymity.

Yes, to many, Bush is a charming and disarming, rather agreeable fellow. Yet, he is vapid, ill equipped, ill informed, and ill suited to lead a nation.

shinerbock · #2 09-27-2006, 11:29 PM

I'd like to know just what that "flawed conservative rhetoric" is, and just what is the better solution. In fact, I'd love to know.

AXEAM · #3 09-29-2006, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PerroLoco

I must support my Brother on this. I won't call Bush any names, but he is clearly overmatched in everything except his ability to be a likeable dupe who can sell flawed conservative rhetoric to the people, whilst the true leaders of this country ply their deceit in obscurity and anonymity.

Yes, to many, Bush is a charming and disarming, rather agreeable fellow. Yet, he is vapid, ill equipped, ill informed, and ill suited to lead a nation.

AMEN !!!!

shinerbock · #4 09-29-2006, 10:41 AM

So you're saying its blanketly offensive to servicemen? I'm sure you have a strong grasp on their feelings, since liberals constantly say "our military people want out! they hate Bush!" Which is totally untrue. You're trying to create drama where it doesn't exist. Thats what people with no ideas do.

AXEAM · #5 10-01-2006, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

So you're saying its blanketly offensive to servicemen? I'm sure you have a strong grasp on their feelings, since liberals constantly say "our military people want out! they hate Bush!" Which is totally untrue. You're trying to create drama where it doesn't exist. Thats what people with no ideas do.

Yes I do have a grasp of the feelings of many service men and yes many of the US military really want out. Many service men & women want out of this bogus war so bad but they can't admit it in a public forum and nobody hates Bush we just feel he is incompetent.......as far as having no ideals I quess you think it was a great ideal to attack Iraq......just like most right wingers who enjoy talking about war as long as they don't have to fight.

shinerbock · #6 10-01-2006, 07:29 PM

So right, you didn't answer either question, I'll remind you...

1) You're saying all or the majority of US service men and women oppose the war?

2) What ideas is your party presenting, other than getting out...you can blame Bush as much as you want, but Democrats did their fair share in putting people in Iraq.

AXEAM · #7 10-03-2006, 08:57 AM

I do believe most oppose the war but b/c of the oath they pledge they can't openly oppose the war, and I don't have a party I vote for the best canidate unlike you. I think the facts about the war in Iraq will come out the truth always does and according to many Bush decieved the congress and the American people.....read Bob Woodward new book State of denial since you enjoy Mr. Woodward books.

OOhsoflyDELTA#9 · #8 10-03-2006, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

So you're saying its blanketly offensive to servicemen? I'm sure you have a strong grasp on their feelings, since liberals constantly say "our military people want out! they hate Bush!" Which is totally untrue. You're trying to create drama where it doesn't exist. Thats what people with no ideas do.

Ummm ex-servicemember here who walked way from 13 years (more than halfway to retirement) of service because the Commander in Chief is an idiot...I CAN speak from first hand knowledge and I WAS deployed twice post 9/11.....most servicemembers that I served with, know, and communicate with HATE THE WAR....so this is a 1st hand account...shit is not getting better in Iraq or the middle east as a whole....sit around and read the Washington Post all freaking day but pull two stints as a single parent having to leave your child behind over Bush's bullshit and then we'll talk....THE DRAMA IS THERE...on every base where fathers and mothers don't come home...I hate it when people who are sitting at home in comfort talk about what "soldiers" feel about the war...

AXEAM · #9 10-03-2006, 11:32 AM

.......and there you have it.

shinerbock · #10 10-03-2006, 12:29 PM

So...a liberal service member is against the war, and there I have it? By the way, I appreciate your service, but I'd counter by saying just about everyone I knew from school who went to Iraq/Afghanistan supports the President. The large majority of them are Marines, but a couple were Army guys as well.

AXEAM · #11 10-03-2006, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

So...a liberal service member is against the war, and there I have it? By the way, I appreciate your service, but I'd counter by saying just about everyone I knew from school who went to Iraq/Afghanistan supports the President. The large majority of them are Marines, but a couple were Army guys as well.

There you go again talking about what some one said or did this young lady can talk the talk b/c she walked the walk in other words her talk is backed up by her actions.

OOhsoflyDELTA#9 · #12 10-03-2006, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

So...a liberal service member is against the war, and there I have it? By the way, I appreciate your service, but I'd counter by saying just about everyone I knew from school who went to Iraq/Afghanistan supports the President. The large majority of them are Marines, but a couple were Army guys as well.

you're known to talk about ususally only associating with a small southern "elite" (in your opinion) group of people....I've served with people from all walks of life...there are five branches of service....I was in AeroVac(medical evacuation)...so of course I was in contact with soldiers from all branches and demographics...the "feel good" footage thats shown around holidays of Bush and other administration members "being" with the troops is PR bullsh*t...you don't see the multitude of soldiers who don't want to be anywhere near his ass....I joined the Air Force 3 months after graduating high school...I'm considered a vet of Desert Storm also....I loved the Air Force and gained so much from serving....I know what I was signing up for when I took my oath....I didn't mind doing what I had to do for my country...BUT this war, the actrocitites that the average American doesn't see is not right...we are trying to push/no force our ideologies on these people....innocent people are dying daily....soldiers who are the average age of about 23 are dying....the "comma" that Bush spoke of...is because they/his administration know that no real change in the mindset of the people will change and years from now the middle east will not flourish in western thought....if I thought we were fighting the group of people who were responsible for 9/11 I would still be in today...but anyone with the good sense of a flea knows otherwise...the small amount of time spent in Afganistan was smoke and mirrors for a whole "nother" agenda...in the immortal words of P.E. Shin...don't believe the hype!!