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Old 09-20-2006, 01:16 PM
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I highly doubt it.
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Old 09-20-2006, 01:21 PM
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I highly doubt it.
By all means, feel free to doubt away.

But I can tell you that in this part of the world, old family/wealthy/"Greek leaning" isn't nearly as likely to mean Republican as it is elsewhere in the South. That was why I suggested you might be surprised.
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Old 09-20-2006, 01:25 PM
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So when did you attend UNC?
I don't go to UNC or UVA and I would have said the exact same thing.
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Old 09-20-2006, 01:25 PM
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The UNC system sees TONS of Charlotte natives. Charlotte is highly Democratic.
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Old 09-20-2006, 01:31 PM
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I don't go to UNC or UVA and I would have said the exact same thing.
And not having gone to either institution or lived anywhere in the area of either institution, you would have based your assumption on . . . ?
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Old 09-20-2006, 02:43 PM
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I obviously never attended UNC, but seeing as about 25 percent of my fraternity is from Charlotte, many with siblings and friends in top fraternities at UNC, they confirm my suspicions.
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Old 09-20-2006, 02:56 PM
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I obviously never attended UNC, but seeing as about 25 percent of my fraternity is from Charlotte, many with siblings and friends in top fraternities at UNC, they confirm my suspicions.
I would definitely speculate though, that you get a different population of Charlotte going to SEC schools as opposed to the UNC system. I would guess that of your 25% Charlotte brothers, 80% of them are from Ballantyne, Lake Norman, Lake Wylie, etc...
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Old 09-20-2006, 03:03 PM
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That might be true, not sure. However, I still strongly suspect that the majority of guys in top fraternities at UNC lean to the right.
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Old 09-20-2006, 03:14 PM
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The UNC system sees TONS of Charlotte natives. Charlotte is highly Democratic.
And it's the Republican part of North Carolina.

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I obviously never attended UNC, but seeing as about 25 percent of my fraternity is from Charlotte, many with siblings and friends in top fraternities at UNC, they confirm my suspicions.
I'm curious which fraternities you would classify as "top fraternities" at UNC. Not necessarily asking you to post that here, though, since that usually results in some bloodshed. (Like you, I know people on here are against tiers -- I agree that they do exist, but the reality is that a lot depends on who is defining them and how.)

And I also assume you know that the rest of North Carolina has long considered metropolitan Charlotte/Mecklenburg County to be only nominally part of North Carolina -- not representative of and out of touch with the rest of the state.

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I would definitely speculate though, that you get a different population of Charlotte going to SEC schools as opposed to the UNC system. I would guess that of your 25% Charlotte brothers, 80% of them are from Ballantyne, Lake Norman, Lake Wylie, etc...
I speculate that you would be right.

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That might be true, not sure. However, I still strongly suspect that the majority of guys in top fraternities at UNC lean to the right.
But what you have to understand is that in much of the population from which UNC pulls its students (and its fraternities pull their members), "leaning to the right" does not equal Republican. North Carolina is a state full of relatively conservative and moderate Democrats, many of whom vote Republican for president and US Senate, but Democratic otherwise.
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Old 09-20-2006, 03:44 PM
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And not having gone to either institution or lived anywhere in the area of either institution, you would have based your assumption on . . . ?

Well, I have spent a considerable amount of time in Virginia and around UVA and I have a good amount of friends that go there...so that helps.

As far as UNC.....I actually visit North Carolina quite often due to the fact that my aunt and uncle live in Pinehurst. I usually jump on the chance to play golf at Pinehurst CC (US Open host if you didn't know that.) Have spent a couple months there on atleast two separate occasions.....and spent alot of time around the college areas. I have friends there as well and know quite a few people from the areas....so that is whom I base my assumptions on.

Thanks. I'd love to hear you tell me some more things that I have not done or places that I have not lived.
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Old 09-20-2006, 03:47 PM
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^^^^ Okay, so not completely baseless or pure assumption. But still, I think y'all would be a little surprised.

ETA:And how is simply asking for the basis of your opinion about UVA or UNC, given that you specifically said you haven't go to UVA or UNC and it being clear from all of your posts that you don't live anywhere near them, the same as telling some things that you have not done or places that you have not lived?
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Old 09-20-2006, 04:03 PM
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I said I didn't go there.......not that I have never been there nor stayed in/around/near either.
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Old 09-20-2006, 04:06 PM
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I said I didn't go there.......not that I have never been there nor stayed in/around/near either.
Well, if that's what you want to get your back up about, go for it.
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Old 09-20-2006, 04:13 PM
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UVA has a lot of Northern Virginians and a much larger out-of-state population than most big Southern schools. Reminds me of my old alma mater, the University of South Florida in Tampa. Neither institution left me with the Southern flavor of my daughter's school - she is a DZ at the University of Alabama. I have never been to UNC at Chapel Hill, but I suspect it is a lot like UVA.By the way, I think all these schools are fine institutions.

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Old 09-20-2006, 04:28 PM
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UVA has a lot of Northern Virginians and a much larger out-of-state population than most big Southern schools.
True to a degree -- I would describe it as a mix of Southern and non-Southern probably, but definitely in a Southern context.
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I have never been to UNC at Chapel Hill, but I suspect it is a lot like UVA.
I advise you never to tell anyone from UNC that.

Seriously, about 83% of the undergraduate student body there is from North Carolina (compared to UVA, where 69% of undergraduates are from Virginia, and as you said, a fair amount of that 69% comes from Northern Virginia). It is still very much a Southern school.

I'm going to be quiet on this now. I think I've said enough as to my original point, which was simply that "Southern" means different things in different parts of the South. I've beaten the poor horse enough.
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