Underage vs DUI; Emory's dilemma

adpiucf · #1 09-18-2006, 05:01 PM

Actually, yes, they can. If the cops break up a function at your home, they can fine the hosts for a variety of things including serving alcohol without a license, serving alcohol to minors, and so much more...

As far as drinking alcohol with your parents in a restaurant when you were underage, the restaurant could have been fined and so could your parents, with some parties serving jail time if there had been a cop present.

I guess this isn't consistent across all 50 states (?) or you've been very lucky, but it occurs enough to where it's commonplace.

Personally, I think the drinking age is absurd. Only 4 countries in the entire world have imposed a drinking age of 21-- USA, Ukraine, Malaysia and South Korea. That being said, people are still going to drink underage-- and some are going to get caught which sucks for everyone involved.

ETA: While I agree it seems that cops should have much better things to do than pull us over for going 50 in a 40 MPH zone, or drinking underage, they don't seem to. While you don't need to be a nun, just be careful out there.

macallan25 · #2 09-18-2006, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by adpiucf

Actually, yes, they can. If the cops break up a function at your home, they can fine the hosts for a variety of things including serving alcohol without a license, serving alcohol to minors, and so much more...

As far as drinking alcohol with your parents in a restaurant when you were underage, the restaurant could have been fined and so could your parents, with some parties serving jail time if there had been a cop present.

I guess this isn't consistent across all 50 states (?) or you've been very lucky, but it occurs enough to where it's commonplace.

Personally, I think the drinking age is absurd. Only 4 countries in the entire world have imposed a drinking age of 21-- USA, Ukraine, Malaysia and South Korea. That being said, people are still going to drink underage-- and some are going to get caught which sucks for everyone involved.

ETA: While I agree it seems that cops should have much better things to do than pull us over for going 50 in a 40 MPH zone, or drinking underage, they don't seem to. While you don't need to be a nun, just be careful out there.

Actually, no......they can't.

I wasn't talking about a "function" or a party at my house.....and you didn't mention that either. Obviously if my parents were handing out alcohol to a bunch of different people that aren't me or my siblings, it makes a difference.

My father is an attorney....we are well aware of what can and can't be done in the home/at a restaurant/etc. etc. No, its not consistent across all 50 states.

cutie_cat_4ever · #3 09-18-2006, 05:40 PM

It reminds me of a case I learned on TV.

This guy was pulled over because of speeding. The cop gave him a speeding ticket, but also found drugs in his car. However, the cop cannot arrest him because the cop does not have a warrent to search his car. The guy got pulled over for speeding at that's it. The cop would have to petition a search warrent to arrest the guy.

Could the same be said about that bus? As long as the driver is driving safe, the cop has no reason to pull over the bus (but obviously the cop could see a reason) until he has warrent. Is that the same?

macallan25 · #4 09-18-2006, 05:47 PM

Where did you see that? I'm pretty sure I have seen multiple multiple instances where routine traffic stops led to drug arrests. I mean, watch Cops sometime.

adpiucf · #5 09-18-2006, 05:50 PM

If you see the cocaine in the car, isn't that probable cause? IE: If you pull someone over for excessive use of the horn and you see the open container in the car, you don't need a warrant to give the person a breathalyzer!

cutie_cat_4ever · #6 09-18-2006, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by adpiucf

If you see the cocaine in the car, isn't that probable cause? IE: If you pull someone over for excessive use of the horn and you see the open container in the car, you don't need a warrant to give the person a breathalyzer!

Yeah you're right. I asked someone and they told me if the cop see it, they can act on it. But they can't ask you to open your trunk to serach unless they have a warrent.

macallan25 · #7 09-18-2006, 08:08 PM

yes they can.......

jon1856 · #8 09-19-2006, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cutie_cat_4ever

Yeah you're right. I asked someone and they told me if the cop see it, they can act on it. But they can't ask you to open your trunk to serach unless they have a warrent.

From what has happened to me in the past, the officer can ask you to open your trunk. At that point it is your choice......but as I said that was several years ago......and I had nothing to hide but for several of the worlds best cheese cakes.....

cutie_cat_4ever · #9 09-19-2006, 12:45 PM

Ahhh, now understood, thanks everyone!

jon1856: ummm, cheese cakes....you're making me hungry now....

jon1856 · #10 09-19-2006, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cutie_cat_4ever

Ahhh, now understood, thanks everyone!

jon1856: ummm, cheese cakes....you're making me hungry now....

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AlphaFrog · #11 09-18-2006, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cutie_cat_4ever

It reminds me of a case I learned on TV.

This guy was pulled over because of speeding. The cop gave him a speeding ticket, but also found drugs in his car. However, the cop cannot arrest him because the cop does not have a warrent to search his car. The guy got pulled over for speeding at that's it. The cop would have to petition a search warrent to arrest the guy.

Don't believe everything you see on TV. If the drugs were in plain sight when the officer looked into the vehicle, a warrant is not needed.

Tom Earp · #12 09-18-2006, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cutie_cat_4ever

It reminds me of a case I learned on TV.

This guy was pulled over because of speeding. The cop gave him a speeding ticket, but also found drugs in his car. However, the cop cannot arrest him because the cop does not have a warrent to search his car. The guy got pulled over for speeding at that's it. The cop would have to petition a search warrent to arrest the guy.

Could the same be said about that bus? As long as the driver is driving safe, the cop has no reason to pull over the bus (but obviously the cop could see a reason) until he has warrent. Is that the same?

It depends if the Officer saw items that may seem like drugs or related items.

It used to be illegal to search a glove box if it was locked or the trunk on a car stop. But the US Supreme Court changed that law.

Now, if the Officer feels in fear of or worrys about safety then they do have the right.

In applying to the bus, there can always be a reason found or so said.

It also applies to the Home.