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Old 09-16-2006, 10:50 AM
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They have these saferide vans in Norman, OK (where Oklahoma U is). It is not unheard of for the cops to pull over a saferid van and arrest the passengers for public intox.
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Old 09-16-2006, 03:10 PM
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They shouldn't be cops if they do stuff like that.

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They have these saferide vans in Norman, OK (where Oklahoma U is). It is not unheard of for the cops to pull over a saferid van and arrest the passengers for public intox.
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Old 09-16-2006, 04:02 PM
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Old 09-16-2006, 07:02 PM
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Simply because if the van/bus driver has done nothing wrong, then they have no probable cause for stopping said vehicle!

No search warrent then have not right to check the passengers unless the passengers got rowdy and cause problems.

Kevin, you want to field this as a up and coming Laywer?
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Old 09-17-2006, 07:26 PM
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If the Bus was taking the students to a Restaurant, and the Restaurant has the license to sell alcohol and the Restaurant is where it is purchased and consumed, then I fail to see where the school nor the SGA is responsible. The restaurant is responsible for the ID checking, etc. Not the person or entity (such as a school) that brought them there.

If you took an underage roommate to the bar, and they got served, and then the roommate left...who is going to get the citation from the ABC board? The bar, not the person that brought them there.

The school made a stupid call.
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Old 09-17-2006, 07:29 PM
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Simply because if the van/bus driver has done nothing wrong, then they have no probable cause for stopping said vehicle!

No search warrent then have not right to check the passengers unless the passengers got rowdy and cause problems.

Kevin, you want to field this as a up and coming Laywer?
Even if the van was pulled over by the police, the driver doesn't get charged with a "contributing to the deliquency of a minor". The police have to prove where they got the alcohol from. If they didn't get it from the driver and the driver didn't purchase it, then they cannot charge the driver.

Think about it, if the driver was responsible, then every cabbie would stop picking up people that call for rides from bars b/c of the liability.
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Old 09-16-2006, 08:22 PM
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Because that's bullshit, thats why. Why do that to a bunch of kids who are being completely responsible.
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Old 09-17-2006, 02:21 PM
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Because that's bullshit, thats why. Why do that to a bunch of kids who are being completely responsible.

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Oh hell, never mind, just give them a kick in the teeth anyway for being safe college kids!
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Old 09-17-2006, 10:15 PM
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Because that's bullshit, thats why. Why do that to a bunch of kids who are being completely responsible.
OK. I think the school made a real mistake here.

I think the kids were being responsible.

They weren't being completely responsible, though. They were breaking the law.

I don't even agree with the law. I'd like to see the drinking age lowered to 18.

Still, it always seems to come back to the law, though.
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Old 09-17-2006, 11:29 PM
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OK. I think the school made a real mistake here.

I think the kids were being responsible.

They weren't being completely responsible, though. They were breaking the law.

I don't even agree with the law. I'd like to see the drinking age lowered to 18.

Still, it always seems to come back to the law, though.

So its against the law to go to a bar, drink, and ride back home?
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Old 09-17-2006, 11:52 PM
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So its against the law to go to a bar, drink, and ride back home?
It is against the law to drink underage, yes.
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Old 09-18-2006, 12:11 PM
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So its against the law to go to a bar, drink, and ride back home?
"This week, the school has ordered this stopped, claiming it was allowing underage students access to alcohol."

If they're underage, yes.
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