liltrixx rush at UCF

[adpiucf]

There's really nothing to tell. All transfers must file transfer paperwork and all chapters must vote to accept a transfer member into their chapter, just as they would vote to accept any member into their chapter. If the transfer isn't a good fit with the new chapter, they're not going to accept the transfer. It's really simple. She's still a sister. She just takes alumna status.

I don't think it is being unsisterly. Just because you got a bid at one chapter doesn't mean you'd get one at another school-- if that were the case, there would probably be a ton of crazies rushing at Backwater University to join a struggling chapter and transferring up to State U as a member-in-full to become part of the most prestigious chapter there.

I know we say on and on at GC that there aren't "Sorority Tiers." There aren't official ones, but campus hearsay keeps certain chapters top-of-mind in the university and among students at other schools. It would opening up a huge can of worms if we suddenly allowed opened up the floodgates... I can see several cases where someone might attend one school to pledge a sorority and then goes to transfer to another school just for its "better" chapter. IE: pledge one sorority at FSU and then transfer into its USF counterpart, or vice versa! That would be insane. ETA: and it defeats the whole purpose of collegiate Greek life as a means to augment the college experience. In this case, it becomes the defining purpose for being at college. And that is crazy.

[ZTAngel]

Originally Posted by adpiucf

Although if you do want to transfer to UF because of their football team, that's a much better reason! We got our asses handed to us last night. 0-42.

I'm wondering if our team saw the Gators come out on the field and just decided to hand them the ball for the next 4 hours and watch...

It was like UCF didn't even show up. I was so embarrassed. My UF "friends" texted me all last night to congratulate UCF on their valiant efforts.

[adpiucf]

I just received an email from a friend in Orlando looking for a house painter. I told her to start with the UCF Football team. After last night, they're all going to need a new way to pass the time.

[ASUADPi]

Originally Posted by adpiucf

There's really nothing to tell. All transfers must file transfer paperwork and all chapters must vote to accept a transfer member into their chapter, just as they would vote to accept any member into their chapter. If the transfer isn't a good fit with the new chapter, they're not going to accept the transfer. It's really simple. She's still a sister. She just takes alumna status.

I don't think it is being unsisterly. Just because you got a bid at one chapter doesn't mean you'd get one at another school-- if that were the case, there would probably be a ton of crazies rushing at Backwater University to join a struggling chapter and transferring up to State U as a member-in-full to become part of the most prestigious chapter there.

I know we say on and on at GC that there aren't "Sorority Tiers." There aren't official ones, but campus hearsay keeps certain chapters top-of-mind in the university and among students at other schools. It would opening up a huge can of worms if we suddenly allowed opened up the floodgates... I can see several cases where someone might attend one school to pledge a sorority and then goes to transfer to another school just for its "better" chapter. IE: pledge one sorority at FSU and then transfer into its USF counterpart, or vice versa! That would be insane. ETA: and it defeats the whole purpose of collegiate Greek life as a means to augment the college experience. In this case, it becomes the defining purpose for being at college. And that is crazy.

I agree somewhat, my feeling though is if there are open spots for membership and there is a sister wanting to affiliate that she should have one of the open spots. I get that different schools, different sisters, but for me affliating is almost (emphasis on almost) like rush.

During FR a PNM might meet only 3-10 sisters (this is dependent on how many are in the chapter, how quickly the bump groups are, etc...), so those girls are the ones really "determining" whether the girl will join the chapter or not. The sisters who haven't met her are basing their votes on what the members who have met her say. If they say she is good, they will most likely vote yes, if they say she's bad they will most likely vote no. They could vote a girl in, who only meshes with like half the chapter, that is really a chance that is taken because not every chapter member gets to meet every single PNM.

That's kind of how I see affliation. You can't mesh with everyone, you can't like everyone, but I guess for me if one chapter thought she was good enough to join our sisterhood, then she's good enough to join my chapter.

Hope that makes sense

[UGAalum94]

How could not welcoming a member in good standing of your group into your chapter be regarded as anything other than "un-sisterly"?

I can see keeping out a person who was likely to be destructive to the chapter, but such singularly destructive personalities are rare.

Your chapter ought to be strong enough to handle a few affiliates from Backwater U and still be awesome.

I understand most chapters vote to accept affiliate members. Part of the fun of being a sister is the idea that your group choose you. But to basically say, nobody else initiated elsewhere could possibly be good enough? Wow.

[TrueBlueKappa]

Originally Posted by adpiucf

I just received an email from a friend in Orlando looking for a house painter. I told her to start with the UCF Football team. After last night, they're all going to need a new way to pass the time.

It was PITIFUL!

[Ocalagirl]

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[adpiucf]

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

How could not welcoming a member in good standing of your group into your chapter be regarded as anything other than "un-sisterly"?

I can see keeping out a person who was likely to be destructive to the chapter, but such singularly destructive personalities are rare.

Your chapter ought to be strong enough to handle a few affiliates from Backwater U and still be awesome.

I understand most chapters vote to accept affiliate members. Part of the fun of being a sister is the idea that your group choose you. But to basically say, nobody else initiated elsewhere could possibly be good enough? Wow.

Then take it up with the proper authorities.

I don't see any reason why any collegiate chapter should be required to take a transfer just because she shares membership. If they wouldn't have bid her had she been a PNM at their school, they should be under no obligation to take her just because she initiated at another chapter. Chapters can share the same ritual and operations and be drastically different in their chapter cultures.

ETA: LilT: I don't think anyone thought you were thinking of pledging and transferring. We just hijacked your thread. Give UCF more than a semester, girl! Any place and any thing takes at least a full year to adjust to!

[Tippiechick]

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

How could not welcoming a member in good standing of your group into your chapter be regarded as anything other than "un-sisterly"?

I think it is very sisterly!

Let's say ABC's chapter at UF is one of ABC's most well-known chapters. Now, say that a legacy knew she probably would have a harder time getting in there at UF. Under your policy, she could take the easy way, go to a school where it's VERY easy to get into ABC. Then, after initiation, she could transfer to UF and become a member. Now, she has taken a slot that someone could have gotten that would help the original chapter build-up.

So, stronger chapters would stay strong while weaker chapters would possibly just get weaker as a result of losing sisters guaranteed a spot anywhere they wish to transfer.

Voting makes sense. Having a no-transfer policy also makes sense in these stronger chapters.

See, the people at the top make these decisions because they have thought all of this out.

Originally Posted by Tippiechick

I think it is very sisterly!

Let's say ABC's chapter at UF is one of ABC's most well-known chapters. Now, say that a legacy knew she probably would have a harder time getting in there at UF. Under your policy, she could take the easy way, go to a school where it's VERY easy to get into ABC. Then, after initiation, she could transfer to UF and become a member. Now, she has taken a slot that someone could have gotten that would help the original chapter build-up.

So, stronger chapters would stay strong while weaker chapters would possibly just get weaker as a result of losing sisters guaranteed a spot anywhere they wish to transfer.

Voting makes sense. Having a no-transfer policy also makes sense in these stronger chapters.

See, the people at the top make these decisions because they have thought all of this out.

It makes sense. Re-reading UCFAlumna's post about maintaining the integrity of the chapter, I don't see anything un-sisterly about it.

Are there other NPC chapters who have similar "no-transfers" rules?

[adpiucf]

Originally Posted by OTW

Are there other NPC chapters who have similar "no-transfers" rules?

I haven't heard of any ADPi chapters with this policy, but I know my own chapter took each transfer on a case-by-case basis. There were instances where we accepted a transfer from a less competitive chapter and declined another from a very competitive chapter. And vice-versa.

[KSUViolet06]

JUst a thought, the "no transfer" thing might be related to campus total and recruitment. They might wish to leave those spots open for taking new freshmen as opposed to sophomore and junior tranfers.

[FSUZeta]

i believe that the one time that a chapter can exceed total-besides formal recruitment-is when they have a member from another chapter affialiate into that chapter. it could be to the chapters advantage to get to know the sister, to see if they think she would fit in. so a transferring sister would not be taking up a slot someone else(other than another transfer) to fill. in fact, i do not believe that there is an npc limit to the number of transfers that a chapter could take.

[BamaDad DZ]

After following my daughter's recruitment thread, I had two mothers pm me to say they were transferring to other less competitive universities in terms of sorority recruitment just so their daughters could receive a bid to a national sorority.

In each case, the daughters pulled out of recruitment activities before preference day, apparently because they were released by their favorites along the way. I sypathized with them to some degree, but I guess sorority participation means quite a bit to those particular young ladies.

If you were a competetive varsity athlete, for example, you might transfer solely for the reason that you were not getting adequate playing time, didn't like the coach, the teams was not competetive, etc.

Who is to say that being a sorority sister is any less important to a young college freshman? If she transfers, gets a bid to XYZ, then resumes studies at her previous university, it also seems fair that she has to be examined for acceptance by the gaining sorority. I think its quite true that she may take a spot from an original pnm simply by her voluntary transfers between schools.

Just a thought from an innocent bystander....

[OOhsoflyDELTA#9]

I know that there are major differences between NPHC and NPC but I never knew that your affliation was more about the chapter then the orgainization as a whole....I don't care if a soror pledged in a 3 member chapter at Hamburger U...if she loves and works hard for Delta, she gets nothing but love from me...I lurk these threads to learn the other side but this is really surprizing...BTW I'm NOT knocking it, just an observation....